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Date Posted: 13:09:21 03/11/08 Tue
Author: Cathy
Subject: I know you hate Todd, lucy, but honestly, I don't feel he's all wrong in what he's saying right now. His actions are extreme, but he's right in much of what he's saying. JMO.
In reply to: lucy 's message, "Blair is not afraid of ANYONE, but she really does need to kick Todd out of the house until he gets his head straight. The delusional twit is trying to steamrolled the Cramer women in their own freakin' home! Its just insane. Let him eat paste at the penthouse. Right now, he should have zero decision making authority over the children." on 12:15:43 03/11/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Just want to add: Todd is saying Starr is too young to have sex. IMO, he couldn't be more right. I'm frankly shocked that Blair didn't immediately agree with him on that. She's only 16 and she didn't even consider protection. IMO, that's ridiculous. -- Cathy, 13:12:51 03/11/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> My problem is that Blair is not thinking of the kids' best interests. He has lost his freakin' mind believing that Charcoal raped Starr, cutting off Starr's phone&computer, coldly blackmailing Starr with no sense of guilt, Blair so needs to kick his ass to the curb for awhile. -- lucy, 13:24:26 03/11/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Todd's insistence on making this rape as well as his ultimatum to Starr are both awful. But taking away her phone and computer is hardly child abuse. It's not even a drop in the bucket. You have a point with the other two but not that. His behavior in regards to most of this is wildly inappropriate but taking away Starr's phone and computer are seriously not a big deal at all. -- Dandesun, 13:50:50 03/11/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I agree that the phone/computer business is no big deal at all. IMO, Starr deserves it. What did she do with the freedome T&B gave her? She had sex at 16 w/no protection! NOT GOOD. Starr is far too obsessed with Cole and she was even before this happened. Todd is right when he says they aren't suited. -- Cathy, 14:17:09 03/11/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> ETA: Even DORIAN says that Starr and Cole need a cooling off period. When DORIAN takes Todd's side, you know he must have a valid point somewhere in all the chaos. -- Cathy, 14:22:08 03/11/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Just want to clarify, Dorian did not take Todd's side, she just trying to be the voice of reason, in fact, yesterday, Dorian wanted to kick Todd's psycho butt out of the house, but Blair saved his butt. If it was not for Blair, Dorian would have Todd's rags shattered in the front yard....lol Blair is too good. -- lucy, 14:48:48 03/11/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> And yet, Dorian agrees with Todd that Starr has no business having sex at 16. She said so. -- Cathy, 14:50:43 03/11/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> This is one of the few things I have ever agreed w/Dorian on. The way Starr went about this was very irresponsible & reactionary. Starr needs to become familiar with the phrase--"No Glove, No Love"!!! It saves lives & prevents unwanted/unneeded effects. -- LH, 19:46:46 03/11/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Honestly, I think Blair needs to kick STARR'S ass a little harder, rather than Todd's. -- Cathy, 14:36:00 03/11/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Wow, we can seriously argue for hours on Todd's recent parenting behavior, but I do not want to take the focus away from Blair. Lets just agree to disagree on Todd's methods, and hope Starr's crisis will bring the Cramer women closer. -- lucy, 14:44:28 03/11/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Sadly, I don't see that Starr's immature behavior will bring any of them closer -- Cramer or Manning. I just see it causing more harm within the family. -- Cathy, 14:48:54 03/11/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> sadly i agree -- tina, 15:02:03 03/11/08 Tue

I used to love Starr but lately she is grating on my last nerve and i don't that is going to change soon. Cole is ruining Starr. She is obsessed over him. As she said, she loves him more than her own family.

I hate the idea of her being pregnant because it will be more of the same.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> ICAM, Cathy!! Blair needs to kick STARR'S ass a little harder, rather than Todd's. I was SO PROUD of Blair today when she told Starr to take responsibility for her own actions--WHAT A CONCEPT!! -- LH, 19:41:32 03/11/08 Tue


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