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Date Posted: 00:50:37 01/19/10 Tue
Author: Angel's Watcher
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Subject: BTVS Rewatch Welcome to the Hellmouth

Ahh, proto-Buffy...I guess you could call it that anyway. I love the beginning of this ep as a CSI NY fangirl. Carmine Giovinazzo looked so young there! (and a vampire Danny wouldn't be all bad lol. Or even a werewolf one)

Buffy starts out just wanting to be normal and get a fresh start but it's not happening, obviously.

David B looked so young too. Even when you look at this ep compared to the end of Angel.

I think we get later confusion from Giles' explanation...he says the Old Ones were the real pure demons and the modern ones are tained with humanity but then we have the Scourge guys trying to use their beacon to cleanse humanity. Why didn't it kill them then? And I wonder if Giles knew about the Deeper Well or not...there's no real conflict though, because it was the live Old Ones who left the dimension. Illyria and co were already dead. I can imagine the Watchers being told not to discuss the Well or not being told to keep it a secret, personally.

What IS conflict: Giles said vampires were only created when the last Old One left the dimension. So how would Illyria know about them and hate them? That's the trouble with all this continuity and mythos...it's not always easy to remember if you need to go back and revisit something to be sure it matches. Writers tend to forget small details as time goes on.

poor Jesse :(

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[> Re: BTVS Rewatch Welcome to the Hellmouth -- dee, 17:50:26 01/22/10 Fri [1] (

Retro Buffy!

Principal Flutie-wait til you see what's in store for you.

And one of the cool girls asking about the new weird girl. "What kind of name is Buffy?"...then finding out her own name is Aphrodisia. *rolls eyes*
Too funny.

Getting our first views of Xander, Willow, Cordy, Giles and of course, Buffy.

Angel and Darla. Who would have known where the two of them had been and where they would end up? Except Joss, of course.

Lots of snark and teenage angst.

What's not to love?

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[> Re: BTVS Rewatch Welcome to the Hellmouth -- alex, 01:59:00 01/23/10 Sat [1] (

I guess as the Deeper well was something only learned about once fred became ill, it was not part of standard Watcher briefing, it took Eve to point Wesley to the books he did not realise he had access to.

I always got the impression that the Council had a vested interest in training their Watchers to see things in 'black and white' so that the Slayer was not distracted by the very real grey areas of human/demon interaction. For that reason I think sometimes Watchers gave a simplified version of events, especially to their teenage girl charges.

That's my interpretation of Joss's famous lack of concern where continuity is involved lol.

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