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Date Posted: 01:37:28 07/29/05 Fri
Author: silveragent
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Subject: Taking one for the team
In reply to: justmytwocents 's message, "Prinze says no SMG in Buffy role" on 19:17:55 07/28/05 Thu

SMG was publicly unhappy about S6-7, and how Buffy came out. Joss in contrast was VERY happy about those seasons. I don't think you can bridge that gap and have to choose: Sarah or Joss. Creatively, I don't think it's possible to have both.

Freddy is taking one for the team about why the Buffyverse is dead (without Sarah). And noted tellingly btw that little kids recognized Sarah as BUFFY.

Is there money left in Buffy? I think yes, but it's Incredibles type money, not niche Joss Firefly type money.

Go to Hollywood Economist, read the articles (including Tom Cruise's deal on Mission Impossible 2 and 3):


Incredibles sold 17 million DVDs, which is ... incredible. Given that the DVDs sold for $15 wholesale, and the margin was $10 after marketing, distribution, manufacturing, and guild payments, that's a whopping $170 million of pure profit. Incredible. Mission Impossible 2 netted 20 million DVDs which is 200 million in pure profit (less Cruise's $94 million).

Note: Cruise paid John Woo out of his pocket; produced MI 2 under budget, and basically fired MI 3 director Carnahan, got a new script. He may jump up and down on a couch, but he not directors and writers has the power.

And I think Freddy took one for the team to demonstrate Sarah has the power. Not Joss, not Fox. Without Sarah there is no project that can make that kind of money, with her there is I'd say. But it would IMHO require Fox to give her the Tom Cruise type of deal (creative control, hiring/firing of writers and directors, no upfront fees and lucrative backend stuff) and a mass-market type of movie which is where the money is.

There is still a LOT IMHO of money left in Buffy, but it's not Spike, Illyria, Faith or Andrew, but rather Buffy and a feel-good story. And you know, there's nothing wrong with that. Possibly in a few years Fox might deal with Sarah ala Cruise.

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[> [> It's not going to happen -- toothy, 18:50:22 07/29/05 Fri [1] (

SMG is not going to be given creative control over a BTVS movie. I'm sure she would be given a script before hand, and I would hope her input would be considered, but I reiterate, SMG is not going to be given control.

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[> [> [> Of course she won't have creative control -- Christian, 21:13:45 07/29/05 Fri [1] (

Butshe can have the option to not do the role i she doesn't like the script.

It's a shame that Joss Whedon didn't at least given some thought to SMG feelings against the dark/depressing nature of season 6. But Joss knows exactly what a girl goes through/feels in her 20's into womanhood. (rolls eyes)

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[> [> Why SA, you're a comedian :-) -- Eurydice, 11:51:35 07/30/05 Sat [1] (

I have to laugh at the notion that SMG would ever get creative control over a Whedonverse project. If she wants creative control over something, she might try creating that something first.

And before any studio gives her a Tom Cruise type of deal, she'll have to come up with Tom Cruise like box office and world-wide name recognition, not to mention Tom Cruise's deep pockets which help him buy that control. So far, that hasn't happened, and going by the career choices she's made, this might not be the path she wants to take anyway.

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