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Date Posted: 19:59:18 07/31/05 Sun
Author: Eurydice
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Subject: Ooops, sorry. I mised a line in your post. :-)
In reply to: Eurydice 's message, "I don't know, Wonder Woman is just one movie" on 19:29:57 07/31/05 Sun

I missed that your concern was if the movie was a success and if it became a franchise. Well, that would be terrific wouldn't it?

The thing is though that Joss didn't create Wonder Woman - he was hired to write and direct this film, so he'll put his interpretation on things, but he can't prevent others from interpreting her differently. I see it like the Batman franchise - they've had different writers and directors, even different actors, and sometimes Batman is broody and dark and sometimes he's lighter and campier, but he's always Batman. We say that we prefer one film over the other, but we don't say that Batman's been destroyed because he can always come back differently.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Ahhh no sorry necessary hun, I know he's capable f writing "strong" female heroes -- Christian, 21:00:37 07/31/05 Sun [1] (

He did so, extremely well the first 5 seasons of Buffy. But then, well you know what happened after that.

He wants to put his own spin on it, I think he said and I quote "No one has met Wonder Woman YET" THAT is what kind of scares me. I mean hello we know who WW is.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Well, Joel Shumacher did actually destroy the franchise in "Batman and Robin" -- Christian, 21:08:11 07/31/05 Sun [1] (

You have to go to DC message boards to understand what I mean.

He completely changed the background story of "Batgirl, which was a DISASTER with a capital "DIE" saster! He's well known for killing the Batman franchise until "Batman Begins" came along. George Clooney on paper seemed like a good choice but on screen not so. He seemed liked he wanted to laugh in a couple of scenes in the movie. And That's during a "dramatic" moment. Like Alfred being close to death. Anyway just wanted to point that out.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> He couldn't have destroyed it if it came back -- Eurydice, 22:36:35 07/31/05 Sun [1] (

Yes, people were saying that George Clooney wasn't right or that various backstories were wrong or the direction sucked or whatever, but all those comments were about the movie, not about the character. I don't hang at DC message boards but on the other boards I've been to I never saw people saying that they'd lost all respect for Batman or that he was a immoral or a hypocrite - if there was anything bad to say it was directed at the filmmakers cuz everybody *knows* that Batman isn't really like that.

People are willing to separate the character from the filmmaker in a way that they're not willing to do with Joss and Buffy, and I think that's because Joss actually created Buffy. There isn't any authentic Buffy apart from what Joss has written, so when he makes her do something we don't like, that's not some guys interpretation, that's really what she is.

Joss didn't create Wonder Woman, so even if he shows us something new and improved and utterly crappy, he won't have destroyed her - we can always go back to the original and start again.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Damn you 4 making the sense girl! Time for a duel! -- Christian, 02:32:45 08/01/05 Mon [1] (

Oh just for get it you'll just wind up winning anyway ol' ways.

CURSES Foiled again!


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Actually he didn't destroy it COMPLETELY, but he really damaged for awhile -- Christian, 17:53:08 08/01/05 Mon [1] (

I mean it took 8 years for them to come back with another one that 95% of the audience truly enjoyed.

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