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Date Posted: 14:21:23 08/01/05 Mon
Author: Rosie
Author Host/IP: 170.97.67.142
Subject: New Top Ten All Time Box Office Hits List

This old list:

1. Titanic (1997)
2. Star Wars (1977)
3. Shrek 2 (2004)
4. E.T.—The Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
5. Star Wars: Episode One— The Phantom Menace (1999)
6. Spider-Man (2002)
7. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
8. Spider-Man 2 (2004)
9. The Passion of Christ (2004)

Should now read like this:

1. Titanic (1997)
2. Star Wars (1977)
3. Shrek 2 (2004)
4. E.T.—The Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
5. Star Wars: Episode One— The Phantom Menace (1999)
6. Spider-Man (2002)
7. Star Wars: Episode Three – Revenge of the Sith (2005)
8. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
9. Spider-Man 2 (2004)
10. The Passion of Christ (2004)

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[> I always hated that list. -- Leoff, 14:52:56 08/01/05 Mon [1] (64.107.133.125)

It doesn't represent true ticket sales, it represents cash intake. Now if you adjust ticket prices for inflation, your list looks a LITTLE bit different...

1 Gone with the Wind 1939
2 Star Wars 1977
3 The Sound of Music 1965
4 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial 1982
5 The Ten Commandments 1956
6 Titanic 1997
7 Jaws 1975
8 Doctor Zhivago 1965
9 The Exorcist 1973
10 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs 1937


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[> [> Thanks, Leoff! -- TGWShark, 15:03:48 08/01/05 Mon [1] (65.161.178.226)

I was wondering if there was an "inflation-adjusted" list. Without adjusting for inflation and eliminating revenue all sources but ticket sales, these lists are misleading indicators of movie popularity.


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[> [> [> Links for this info: -- Leoff, 15:06:01 08/01/05 Mon [1] (64.107.133.125)

You can go to Box Office Mojo and go into "all time" box office earnings. In there, there is a link to a list that shows "adjusted for inflation."

Personally, I'd rather see the system re-vamped to show actual ticket sales, not the monetary take.


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[> [> [> [> Re: Links for this info: -- silveragent, 20:35:50 08/01/05 Mon [1] (63.199.111.93)

See the Hollywood economist on Slate.com for more info on how Hollywood really makes money, and some inside money stuff.

Pretty revealing. Among other tidbits (buried in the Tom Cruise story): DVDs wholesale average of $15, studio rakes in $10 or so after marketing/guild/other expenses. Shrek 2 did around 28 million DVDs, MI 2 around 20 million DVDs, and Incredibles around 17 million DVDs. Leading to profits of 280 million for Shrek 2 alone, and practices for channel stuffing.

In some ways movies are more mass market than ever, just on TV, DVDs, etc. In other ways ... well in 1948 around what, 75% of people went to the movies in theatres. Now, around 10%. Ouch.


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[> [> [> [> [> Well in NYC to see a movie tickets are $11.00 a pop -- Christian, 20:49:42 08/01/05 Mon [1] (209.240.205.62)

And sodas and popcorn are extremely expensive, so I sneak in a 2 liter pepsi that goes for $0.99 for me and my guy and he buys me a Taco Bell salad.

It costs 19.00 for 2 large popcorns and 2 large sodas in the theatres. That is TOO crazy!


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[> [> Re: I always hated that list. -- Lewis H., 16:48:35 08/01/05 Mon [1] (192.91.147.35)

That just looks like a more realistic list. The absence of any of the Star Wars Episode 1-3 movies improves it 1000%. I had fun seeing them but they aren't in my top 10 movie list.


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[> [> "Birth of a Nation" would be at, or near, the top based on ticket sales, not money. -- wwolfe, 11:42:47 08/02/05 Tue [1] (161.149.63.100)

Given that a movie ticket cost about a dime in 1915, versus ten bucks now, a Top Ten based on money means next to nothing.


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[> Re: New Top Ten All Time Box Office Hits List -- whoareu?, 05:42:35 08/02/05 Tue [1] (65.6.36.188)

I have heard that since DVD has been rising even more in popularity, studios are putting DVDs out even faster, possibly creating a shift from theatrical movies to direct to video movies. I think it will be a sad day where I can't go see a movie in a theater.


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