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Date Posted: 00:56:16 06/30/09 Tue
Author: Jubellant
Subject: Thanks KH for another well stated recap that is much appreciated. I even rated a quote!!! Thanks, I feel like a celebrity LOL! (Inside)
In reply to: KH 's message, "Well here we go with Episode 4 already. What did everyone think? There were alot of different storylines going on last night and packed into one episode..." on 22:50:39 06/29/09 Mon

Seriously though, reading several comments from various sources how would feel if I found out while away on a successful business trip that my spouse had been up to some extra marital activity and everyone knew. Frank has been on the job for at least 20 years and it seems he is just on the brink of moving up in the ranks as he explained to Denise when he was a having a hissy fit about her not attending a military function of his. Then he manages to gain the confidence of his CO on a risky mission and then he is blindsided by his wife's (who just needed some space) actions. Who knows if he even knew how he was going to react. The first time around he removed himself and this time he gave his wife the boot. In spite of it all he had told Jeremy she was still his mother and to treat her with respect. I feel for Jeremy on that front that everyone knows about his mother's indiscretion and also the comment made by a fellow soldier that he has a girl back home versus some stray dog. I have not seen the last part as to expression etc on both their parts Denise/Frank. I look forward to see if my opinion changes. I don't know if it is a pride thing for Denise to just keep putting on a brave face and take one step at a time but this I don't know if I loved him wrt Getti and her not being able to understand her actions wrt Mac just has me befuddled. It's as if she has no will or choice in the matter. CJ stood up for Denise once before with Michael and again this time about 2nd chances. So CJ feels awkward around Denise right now. She might be avoiding Denise because she feels angry about Denise's choices and does not want to say something out of anger that just will add fuel to Denise's growing forest fire. Denise herself was avoiding Roland when she first suspected he might have had an affair on Joan, so her anger at CJ is a bit hypocritical.

That said someone also mentioned that Roxy and Pamela seemed to be all, we wives have to stick together, when it came to Marilyn's affair. Roxy even sat with her at some outdoor function. Frank has been kicked publically in the gut twice by his wife. Now while he might liked to have dealt with things privately, it is out in the open. Surely ego is playing a big factor at the present time. I do not like seeing Denise being treated like a pariah but on the other hand I don't comprehend her sleeping with Mac besides the fact that it was written in the script. She was not very discreet with either attraction. Frank is Frank. To salvage any part of this marriage he is going to have to step out of his comfort zone and let go. He talks about respect with his son but for his part he is so dismissive of anything Denise tries to tell him. He is slow as it usually takes him awhile to get it and then a light bulb finally illuminates and he gets it. She is his trophy wife, smart and beautiful. Instead of supporting her, he tries to control and stifle her. It is all about his needs and until he realizes that, he is bound for more heartache. I did see hurt in his eyes on his way home and almost a forlorn look. He did not want to go home I think because as long as he was not there he could pretend the rumours were not true. The first counselling session was done before either of them was in a place to accept it. Frank was still too hurt and Denise was still too resentful to be truly receptive about examining their relationship in an honest way. Denise kind of blew everyone off when they came rushing to defend her so she could go meet her precious Mac. Pamela knows what it is like to feel tempted and she probably wants to stay far away from that can of worms thinking, but for the Grace of God it could have been me. I feel for both Franks and Dee as neither are bad people, just products of their upbringing. They are both at fault and Denise frustrates me as much as Frank does at this point. And no I have not forgotten Frank finding himself in a situation and then staying the night to TALK with someone who obviously had no respect for his views on marriage and vows. So think about that as you play the I've been so wrong done by husband, Frank.

Emmalin continues to press on my nerves. I detest rudeness and disrespect from a minor. I am happy for Pamela getting her new home. The kids not wanting to leave was priceless.

I've already said my bit about the newest cast hunk LUCKY. What a cutie.

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[> [> You've been quoted Jubellant, you are now a celebrity...LOL! Also could you explain to me what your last sentence is in the first paragraph. I may be a bit dense, but I 'm not sure what you're trying to say. :o) -- KH, 01:06:50 06/30/09 Tue


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[> [> [> When Roland met up with Denise in Season One, when Roland says to Denise she didn't return his calls she said she had a busy day and he asks her if she is free for lunch and she says she has to get home cause Frank might call and Roland presses her by asking if something was wrong and she tells him she ran into Joan and she had the impression that he had an affair. I was drawing a parallel about how she felt awkward about seeing Roland and was trying to avoid him and how now when CJ is doing the same thing until confronted, Denise gets on her high horse. At the time CJ was going through alot and she had already stood up for Denise once already to Michael and now Denise continues her behaviour but this time follows through with her desires. Even though she said she was his friend and she supported him she still initially tried to avoid him. Hope that clarifies things a bit KH. -- Jubellant(So are you dense or am I incoherent?), 02:06:33 06/30/09 Tue


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[> [> [> [> No, I got that part I meant the last sentence of the first paragraph in regards to Frank. -- KH, 02:24:55 06/30/09 Tue


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[> [> Is it the part that about Frank removing himself? He went to stay at the Officer's quarters when Denise wanted her space as he found it too hard to be around her and act naturally. This time around IMO he probably was like well this time I need space from you and you can be the one on the outside this time. Hope this is what you are referring to. Again I may change my opinion when I actually see that last scene played out which I have not. Just got to the part where Denise stands up as she sees the headlights in the living room. I am anxiously waiting until this is all squared away as I want to know how someone takes their core values and tosses them out the window on someone they don't even love. I just lost my mind, and not understanding one's own behaviour is lame writing. I want to see how they get Pandora back in the box on this one. -- Jubellant, 02:41:13 06/30/09 Tue


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[> [> [> Oh Gosh Jubellant, I really am dense, no it's actually the last sentence of the 2nd paragrah...LOL. I'll get it right eventually...LOL. -- KH, 02:59:40 06/30/09 Tue


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[> [> [> [> Okay gotcha, LOL. Actually it is a bit cryptic. I am talking to Frank telling him to mull over his own actions as he plays the long suffering one who feels he has been so wronged by his wife's actions! Okay are we on the same page or I should say paragraph now? LOL!. -- Jubellant (They say third time Lucky. Hey isn't that a dog we know?), 03:16:30 06/30/09 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> Yeah, we are on the same page and paragraph now, LOL. Gotcha! Take Care! :o) -- KH, 03:43:18 06/30/09 Tue


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