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Date Posted: 14:33:44 08/07/17 Mon
Author: Roger Rollerman
Subject: INTERETING POLLS ABOUT INTRUSIVE MANDATORY MEDICAL PROCEDURES ON CHILDREN AND TEENS



Interesting polls about events in childhood, teenhood and adulthood

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You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about.
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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/616524

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Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395

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Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327

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Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976

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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807


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All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions.


Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

Please also see his website with interesting information about alternative treatments, fitness and sex

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm


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SOME OF THE STORIES I HAVE COLLECTED

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Boy, Slovakia, psycological assessment 16yo plus pelvic exam 17yo

I am a male. I was a teenager, 16yo. The exam occured in Slovakia, Year 1990 - 1999, In eastern Europe

I was examined in a health centre, psychologist's office. I came with mum by walk. A psychotherapist examined me with my mum present.

OVERVIEW OF THE EXAM:

They performed a neurologic exam with electrodes on my body, a psychological exam, and a lie detector test.

THE EXAM STEP BY STEP:

Firstly we had a talk about my behavior. Then I did a lie detector when clothed and answering questions. Then rather same questions with lie detector stripped from waist. Again similar qustions, but now only in bries. Finally I did the same questions under lie detector being stark naked. I had to be naked till the end of the exam.

No specific phtsical exam occured


REASON AND JUDGEMENT:

What do you think was the reason for this exam? Behavior problems. What is your opinion about this experience? I was like testing bunny for this young doctor. I was nude despite nothing with my body was done.",,,,,,"

DIAGNOSIS:

The exam resulted in this diagnosis: Im lier but not so much when naked.

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I have got an answar about a pelvic exam at 17yo in another poll that probably is from the same respondent:

Boy, 17yo, Czech Republic, 17yo, cystosopy and exam through anus

I had cystoscopy - I am male. The exam took place in Eastern Europe, Prague Czech Republic, 17 years old, Years 1990-1999. Cystoscopy occured in a hospital.

Parents said something like: The doctor shall look at you down in your stomach. Got a nonsense exlanation of the type: We take you to the hospial. There you will sleep and then go home again. We went for some more complex exam to the hospital.

I came there by public transport with mum.



PREPARATIONS:

Had to walk by myself to the exam. Got to a special preparation room. Had to undress completely and go to bed. Given enema during preparations.

Taken vitals like temperature, heart rate and blood pressure. A doctor came, asked questions and explained.

In the doctors room I had to pull,down my trousers and nurse checked by butt. She realized enema is needed. Then I had to go to another room in the hospital where I had to undress completely and got the enema. Then again back to my cloth, We went back to the doctor's office. She asked me this time to take all my clothes off. My mum had to be there as I was below 18.

Got lubricating and pain-killing fluid inserted in through the pee-hole. Was totally naked during exam.

I lay on my back with streight legs.


THE EXAMS PERFREMED:

They put a flexible snake-like cystoscope in through the urethra. The scope or a new intrument was inserted even further up towards the kindeys.

They inspected anus with a scope.

Got medicines into urethra with a syringe after the exam.


DIAGNOSIS:

Diagnosis - psychological problems. Had to have a cathetherization routine. Social or psychological councelling or a training program.
The reason was problems with urination.


JUDGEMENTS:

It was not any big deal but it was painful.


COMMENTS

It is a common practice in many communities in the world to relate psychological problems or behavior problems to properties in the pelvic system, which leads first to a psychological assessment, then to a thorrough pelvic examination and often to some kind of management of pelvic functions, like urination, as in this case.

Even though it is difficult to find standard medical litterature about this practice and the theory about it, my investigation have revealed that it is common. It seems that the theory and particularities are held secret within specific medical subcultures.

Even though it is not told about here, the boy probably got deep sedation or general anesthesia, and the procedure was probably much more extensive that he remmebers, and probably the procedure followed an internationally established protocol for the examination.

By Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm


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Man, 30-36 yo, USA NJ, cystoscopy and treatment for prostate stones

I had cystoscopy - I am male. The exam took place in North America, USA Morristown NJ when I was30 - 38 years old, Years 1980-1989. The Cystoscopy occured in a hospital. The reasons for the exam was small amount of blood in urine.


EXPLATATIONS BEFOR THE EXAM:

The explanation was progressive: Originally the doctor said: "You'll get it as an outpatient. You'll have to take the day off from work." A day or two before it happened they added: "Oh yeah you'll need to have somebody drive you home afterward." When I was at the hospital on the morning of the exam they added: "Oh yeah, you'll also need someone to stay with you for 24 hours after the exam."


PREPARATIONS AND THE EXAM ITSELF:

The whole bed was rolled with me upon when the time for the exam had come. Taken vitals like temperature heart rate and blood pressure. A consent formula was presented and signed.

I got a a tube into a blood vessel to give anesthesia. Was put totallly to sleep. Had a gown around me, but the lower body was naked. I lay on my back with streight legs before the exam.

I do not know how the exam was done because put fully to sleep and noone told afterwards.


ARRANGEMENTS AND SYMPTOMS AFTER THE EXAM:

After I went home, I experienced bleeding and had trouble urinating. When I called them about it the nurse I got said: "Well I'd expect so!" even though they had never mentioned this beforehand as a possibility. Parents took care of me after the exam.


DIAGNOSIS AND FOLLOW-UPS

The diagnosis was prostate stones. Had to force fluids in order to urinate.

OPINION ABOUT THE ORDEAL:

It Should have been explained better.


COMMENTS

It sounds like they took out the prostate stones surgically and that this is the reason for the symptoms afterwards. They probably already knew about this diagnosis before the cystocopy itself, probably by means of an ultrasound exam performed with a sond inserted through his anus, or possibly x-rays.


By Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

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Girl, teenage, Eustralia, extensive internal inspections at her dad's doctor office

I was a teenage girl. It happened in Eustralia or Oceania. I was examined at home. I was home alone and felt an overpowering urge to go to my dad's home office (he's a doctor) I walked into his office (home clinic i s'pose) and felt an urge to sit on the gyno/exam chair. I couldn't see but I felt like there were 2/3 in the room Who was also present besides my father during the exam? 2/3 other people

EXAM OVERVIEW

They examined my head teeth and jaws. They did an orthopedic exam. They examined the organs inside my chest. They examined my organs inside my stomach. They examined my genitals. They examined my rectal zone. They did a general examination of my pelvic zones.

They inserted instruments into my nose. I got a prop in my mouth that held it open wide and i kind of felt like i was at the dentist. They inserted instruments into my mouth.

They inserted instruments into my urinary opening. i've never had this before so it was weird and uncomfortable. They inserted instruments into my vagina, opened my vagina with a speculum and poked around. They inserted instruments into my rectal opening. I think they took my temperature rectally and also used a speculum

They performed a neurologic exam with electrodes on my body. They performed an electrocardiogram of my heart. They performed a exam with electrodes on my head. They performed a full functional test of my breathing, heart and blood circulation under workload.

They performed a psychological exam. They made interrogations about my social relations and my daily life.

They took x-rays of the examined areas. They took tomographic x-ray scans of the examined areas. They took MMR-scans of the examined areas. They took ultrasound pictures of the examined areas. They scanned the examined areas after injection of a radioactive isotope or contrast fluid.

I also had a dental exam which was terrifying.


ANESTHESIA AND ARRANGEMENTS

I was given sadative or pain-killing medicines through my mouths. I was sedated but awake. I was totally naked.

My positions during the exam: In stirrups on the gyno chair and spread eagle frog position. Any strange equipment or arrangements in the exam room? There was a weird pumping type machine?


EXAM SEQUENCE

First they ties me down completely - neck brace connected to chair straps so i couldn't move at all.

Then ut my legs in the stirrups and spread them wide so i was fully exposed.

Thirdly reclined chair inserted mouth prop so it was stuck open wide. Then they did a thorough dental exam.

Forthly put eye drops in my eyes so i couldn't see well and then opened them wide and scanned my face.

Then they put suctions on my breasts. It was like they were trying to milk me?

Thereafter they thoroughly examined my genitals and insterted objects into both my vagina and rectum and took photos. I felt as if they were taking samples from inside me because they were examining my genitals 4 ages.

Latsly I blacked out for a little and woke up fully clothed in my bedroom. It was weird.


UROGENITAL EXAM

I do not exactly remember all of it, sometimes I only felt they did something down there.

They palpated my outer female genitals. They spread my genital lips to look inside. They examined my vagina with a speculum. They took speciments (pap smears etc) from my vagina with an instrument. They performed an outer ultrasound exam of my female genitals and lower tummy area. They perfomed an ultrasound exam through my vagina.


ANAL EXAM

They spread my cheeks and examined externally my rectal zone. They examined my rectum with an inserted finger.

They inserted a speculum into my anus to examine it internally. They took specimens from my rectum or bowel with some tube-like instrument. They took some measurements inside my rectum or bowel with a long tube-like instrument. They looked in through my rectum with a rigid optical scope. They examined my rectum and terminal colon with a flexibal scope. They examined my rectum with an ultrasound sond. They performed a full colonoscopic exam of my entire bowel.


SYMPTOMS AFTERWARDS

I had strange pain or irritation in my rectal zone and stomach as if my rectum or bowel had been secretly examioned. I had strange irritation in my urethra and bladder zone as if this body part had been secretly examined. The exam did not result in any diagnosis.


JUDGEMENT ABOUT THE ORDEAL

What do you think was the reason for this exam? i'm not sure. it felt too real to be a dream and i feel so taken advantage of.

What is your opinion about thios experience? it was strange


COMMENTS

It looks like the father of the girl had planned to do a full health check, including endoscopic inspections of her daughter. The strangest thing with the story is the way she got to the office to get the exam. Some communities do such extensive checks on all children. This might be such a community, and it is possible that the father was angaged in that work.

Probably her father had talked with her many times about such extensive exams and that she soon would need it and said to her that she could just come down to his office when she felt ready. It is possible that he secretly gave the girl some medication during these thoughts, so that she do not remember much of the thoughts, but that the message was understood. When she came the father and her colleges id the exam.

Edited by Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm



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Girl, 12yo, USA, Michigan, Exam in group to check pubertal development and for education about their bodies

I am a female. I was a teenager, 12 yo. The exam occured in North America, Michigan, in the period 1990-1999, at School. It was a group exam with many other girls, the idea is for us to get used to seeing each other naked. It all occured in the gymnasium. Parents brought me in.


They said it would help with my fear of showering with other girls. The school nurse did the exam. Also present were another nurse and several other girls my age and their parents

OVERVIEW OF THE PROCEDURE

They examined my head teeth or jaws. They did an orthopedic exam. They examined the organs inside my chest. They examined my organs inside my stomach. They examined my genitals. They examined my rectal zone. They did a general examination of my pelvic zones. They performed a psychological exam. They made interrogations about my social relations and my daily life.

Please add any comment about details. The idea was to show to everyone that our bodies are normal and healthy

ARRANGEMENTS

I was totally naked. My positions during the exam: mostly standing in view of the others They had us all in a circle so we could see each other


THE SEQUENCE OF THE ORDEAL AS IT PROCEEDED

First told me to take all my clothes off, secondly went over my body in detail touching and checking all the external parts. Thirdly the usual eyes-ears check. Then they felt inside my vagina. Then they just had us stand there for a while all naked and told us to look at each other. Lastly they sent us to the locker room to take a shower together


All along they talked to us about our feelings and how it's normal and okay for girls to get naked.


REASON AND OPITION

What do you think was the reason for this exam? I said I was scared to change and shower for gym next year. I think all the other girls were too. It felt weird at first but long-term I think it was worth it


DETAILS ABOUT THE UROGENITAL EXAM

They palpated my outer female genitals.They spread my genital lips to look inside. They also rubbed me a lot. They spread my cheeks and examined extarnally my rectal zone. They pointed out who had the most pubic hair and breasts and assured us these differences are ok


FOLLOW-UPS

Parents talked to me at home and made sure I was okay with the gym class policies



COMMENTS

In addition to the mentioned reasons, the exam probably had the purpose of finding out how long the pubertal development of the girls had come and this was surely recorded for each girl.

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