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Date Posted: 14:34:26 04/30/04 Fri
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Subject: Yes, that would be him. And it’s a good thing I listened to my ‘little voice’ or ‘something more’ would have gone on. Be dazzlingly mature? Bwaaaa!! I’m the only mature one here! She has every right to be angry. I’ve been trying to calm her down, diffuse the situation.
In reply to: Bry.... Seacrest..... OUT! 's message, "Errr... the little shit has a girlfriend." on 07:21:25 04/30/04 Fri

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[> [> Thank God she didn’t find my phone number. I’m not in loooooove with him for christsake! And it’s not like I seduced him or anything, if it was like that there would have been some serious shagging going on. He really is a sweet guy béla, just a little err… confused. (great, now I have 2 19 year olds to deal with) -- Bry, 14:36:18 04/30/04 Fri

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[> [> *more* I shouldn’t post this. An Epic titled: What A MESS!! Please kill me now. Thank the Gods I used my better judgement and didn’t get ‘romantic’ with the boy.. what have I gotten myself into you must **click** -- Bry, 01:13:35 05/01/04 Sat

Stupid thing is we haven’t even kissed! We’ve seen each other 5 times. Twice for lunch at McD’s, we went to the mall once and twice I went over and we watched a dvd. We had talked on the phone maybe 8 times. Everything else has been email or im (countless emails and ims, that’s how she found out). Not even dirty ones! Ok, slightly naughty but it wasn’t like cybersex or anything. He’s terribly funny, smart (and quite cute). He’s a really sweet kid.

I know why she’s so angry. She didn’t know he had these feelings. She feels hurt angry and betrayed. It isn’t like I’m some pervert that was surfing the web for teenage boys to convert. I found a site on the net that played cool music. Local guy, we got on well via im and email. Age never came up until I met him the first time. Since then it’s been more of a friend thing like.. My best friend’s younger brother is gay too? Ok, he’s cool. No shagging. (Does that make sense?) **sigh** All of this drama could have been avoided if he had told me but I can’t be mad at him. I would have told him to talk with her. He could have started off with things like ‘You think he’s cute?’ and maybe work his way into ‘He’s got a nice ass’ or something like that to get things started. He could have introduced us to each other. He’s 19 for gods sake. Errr.. he’s not ‘out’. He’s not sure if he’s straight bi or gay doesn’t know what he wants from life. He says he was afraid to tell me. He likes me and didn’t know what to do. He was afraid to tell her about those ‘feelings’ because he loves her. He’s worried what his family might think.

I talked to him on the phone earlier today. He’s an emotional wreck. Every time he calls she hangs up on him but she keeps calling him and screaming in his ear. I suggested he say something like ‘I’m sorry, we need to talk but not like this.’ politely and hang up. Try talking to her by email.

I’m glad she didn’t find my phone number. I have gotten a few semi-civil semi-coherent emails from her. Most of them are rather venomous though. When coherent she’s nice. I explained how we met, that he was afraid to tell her he likes guys. Nothing happened. We’re just friends. He’s too young for me. Talk to him, he loves you. He’s very upset. And she’s OK. Then she has time to think about it and goes ballistic again. I don’t blame her. A 19 year old girl finds out her boyfriend of 3 years thinks he’s bi. She thinks he’s cheating with a 36 year old guy. I never thought about it before but that reaction is what I would expect.

I can’t just bail out on them. I gotta try to fix this shit somehow. Sorry, I had to let it out. My best friend is being supportive but she can’t deal with it. I did give you something to read though! Now if I can only get them to talk nice. Someone pass me the vodka please.

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[> [> [> sounds like you've done all that you can. It isnt your fault. Have you tried blocking their emails? -- Poule, 08:51:41 05/04/04 Tue

>Stupid thing is we haven’t even kissed! We’ve seen
>each other 5 times. Twice for lunch at McD’s, we went
>to the mall once and twice I went over and we watched
>a dvd. We had talked on the phone maybe 8 times.
>Everything else has been email or im (countless emails
>and ims, that’s how she found out). Not even dirty
>ones! Ok, slightly naughty but it wasn’t like cybersex
>or anything. He’s terribly funny, smart (and quite
>cute). He’s a really sweet kid.
>
>I know why she’s so angry. She didn’t know he had
>these feelings. She feels hurt angry and betrayed. It
>isn’t like I’m some pervert that was surfing the web
>for teenage boys to convert. I found a site on the net
>that played cool music. Local guy, we got on well via
>im and email. Age never came up until I met him the
>first time. Since then it’s been more of a friend
>thing like.. My best friend’s younger brother is gay
>too? Ok, he’s cool. No shagging. (Does that make
>sense?) **sigh** All of this drama could have been
>avoided if he had told me but I can’t be mad at him. I
>would have told him to talk with her. He could have
>started off with things like ‘You think he’s cute?’
>and maybe work his way into ‘He’s got a nice ass’ or
>something like that to get things started. He could
>have introduced us to each other. He’s 19 for gods
>sake. Errr.. he’s not ‘out’. He’s not sure if he’s
>straight bi or gay doesn’t know what he wants from
>life. He says he was afraid to tell me. He likes me
>and didn’t know what to do. He was afraid to tell her
>about those ‘feelings’ because he loves her. He’s
>worried what his family might think.
>
>I talked to him on the phone earlier today. He’s an
>emotional wreck. Every time he calls she hangs up on
>him but she keeps calling him and screaming in his
>ear. I suggested he say something like ‘I’m sorry, we
>need to talk but not like this.’ politely and hang up.
>Try talking to her by email.
>
>I’m glad she didn’t find my phone number. I have
>gotten a few semi-civil semi-coherent emails from her.
>Most of them are rather venomous though. When coherent
>she’s nice. I explained how we met, that he was afraid
>to tell her he likes guys. Nothing happened. We’re
>just friends. He’s too young for me. Talk to him, he
>loves you. He’s very upset. And she’s OK. Then she has
>time to think about it and goes ballistic again. I
>don’t blame her. A 19 year old girl finds out her
>boyfriend of 3 years thinks he’s bi. She thinks he’s
>cheating with a 36 year old guy. I never thought about
>it before but that reaction is what I would expect.
>
>I can’t just bail out on them. I gotta try to fix this
>shit somehow. Sorry, I had to let it out. My best
>friend is being supportive but she can’t deal with it.
>I did give you something to read though! Now if I can
>only get them to talk nice. Someone pass me the vodka
>please.

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[> [> [> Actually I don't think it IS your responsibility to fix it. More theirs to "live & learn",as it were.You've been pretty circumspect,and obviously he's interested and exploring.Doubt that curiosity is going away just 'cause he(or she)will it to...and 19 is -- an age when hardly anyone has figured themselves out completely...Gaby, 09:22:16 05/04/04 Tue

>Stupid thing is we haven't even kissed! We've seen
>each other 5 times. Twice for lunch at McD's, we went
>to the mall once and twice I went over and we watched
>a dvd. We had talked on the phone maybe 8 times.
>Everything else has been email or im (countless emails
>and ims, that's how she found out). Not even dirty
>ones! Ok, slightly naughty but it wasn't like cybersex
>or anything. He's terribly funny, smart (and quite
>cute). He's a really sweet kid.
>
>I know why she's so angry. She didn't know he had
>these feelings. She feels hurt angry and betrayed. It
>isn't like I'm some pervert that was surfing the web
>for teenage boys to convert. I found a site on the net
>that played cool music. Local guy, we got on well via
>im and email. Age never came up until I met him the
>first time. Since then it's been more of a friend
>thing like.. My best friend's younger brother is gay
>too? Ok, he's cool. No shagging. (Does that make
>sense?) **sigh** All of this drama could have been
>avoided if he had told me but I can't be mad at him. I
>would have told him to talk with her. He could have
>started off with things like `You think he's cute?'
>and maybe work his way into `He's got a nice ass' or
>something like that to get things started. He could
>have introduced us to each other. He's 19 for gods
>sake. Errr.. he's not `out'. He's not sure if he's
>straight bi or gay doesn't know what he wants from
>life. He says he was afraid to tell me. He likes me
>and didn't know what to do. He was afraid to tell her
>about those `feelings' because he loves her. He's
>worried what his family might think.
>
>I talked to him on the phone earlier today. He's an
>emotional wreck. Every time he calls she hangs up on
>him but she keeps calling him and screaming in his
>ear. I suggested he say something like `I'm sorry, we
>need to talk but not like this.' politely and hang up.
>Try talking to her by email.
>
>I'm glad she didn't find my phone number. I have
>gotten a few semi-civil semi-coherent emails from her.
>Most of them are rather venomous though. When coherent
>she's nice. I explained how we met, that he was afraid
>to tell her he likes guys. Nothing happened. We're
>just friends. He's too young for me. Talk to him, he
>loves you. He's very upset. And she's OK. Then she has
>time to think about it and goes ballistic again. I
>don't blame her. A 19 year old girl finds out her
>boyfriend of 3 years thinks he's bi. She thinks he's
>cheating with a 36 year old guy. I never thought about
>it before but that reaction is what I would expect.
>
>I can't just bail out on them. I gotta try to fix this
>shit somehow. Sorry, I had to let it out. My best
>friend is being supportive but she can't deal with it.
>I did give you something to read though! Now if I can
>only get them to talk nice. Someone pass me the vodka
>please.

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[> [> [> continuing saga. you must **click** -- Bryan, 22:52:29 05/04/04 Tue

I know it’s not my fault or my responsibility to fix things. With him being ‘curious’ this sort of thing would have happened eventually. I’m just glad he ran into me first. Some of the people I’ve met would have tied him up, raped him and left him in the woods. At least I have some morals... twisted as they are.

Yeah they’re just kids and they have to ‘live and learn’ but since I’m involved in this I can and should give a little guidance. They are good kids and I want things to be ok for them, even if things don’t work. She has calmed down considerably. I’m no longer getting emails every two hours. One would be full of ‘You want him? TAKE HIM!’ The next would be ‘He’s MINE! Stay away from him you fu**!’ I called her Sunday (I used a payphone) and we talked for almost an hour. I told her all the things I said before in email. We talked and talked and talked. Heh, she had to call me back because I ran out of quarters. I think she’s ok for the moment. She believes me now. I think hearing a voice helped a lot for whatever reason.

Jay has calmed down too. At least he’s no longer on the verge of tears when I talk to him but I’ve gotten off the phone with him and cried my eyes out. I just want to pick him up and take him to a nice safe place where nothing can hurt him. He’s all scared and confused.

I was always sort of out. When I told my mum I saw the hurt in her eyes but there was a smile on her face. She told me she always knew and that now she could tell me I needed to stop seeing John. Boy was she right on that one. At least I didn’t have parents who disowned me for being gay... they did throw me out though but that was for other stuff. Christ, I was a rotten little bastard.

Jay has his own place, his parents are divorced and he supports himself. He’s got two jobs and is taking classes to get his diploma. I feel like I’m stuck in some bizarre ‘made for television’ movie. Hey, I got them talking civil! He stopped crying. She stopped screaming and is talking to me. It’s a start. Now I should probably start taking steps backwards. I don’t need all this. Just breathing is enough of a chore for me. Please pass the tea and add a slight (HUGE) splash of vodka for flavor.

Damned Kids. I never wanted to be a parent that’s why I have cats.

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