Date Posted:20:11:38 09/14/08 Sun Author: Raymond Author Host/IP: ip98-166-3-168.hr.hr.cox.net / 98.166.3.168 Subject: Yes ,I know it . I think this is common knowlage. BTW I had one on my left arm about 45 years ago. It was removed along with lump nodes up my arm and under my shoulder and across my chest.. I've been under a Dermatologist care , checked all over every year every since. I also had a complete face burn with Efudex. back then. In reply to:
LB
's message, "Why won't John McCain release his medical records? Did you know that he has had Stage 2 melanoma? >>" on 17:12:20 09/14/08 Sun
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But see, here's the thing, and I haven't made up my mind, I do personally worry about his health and would Palin be ready to step in. I was talking earlier with someone and they were saying as long as the President is there, the vp doesn't need to do much. I think he was kidding, but wasn't it Dan Quayle that couldn't even spell. For some of us that aren't politically savvy with this election coming up, it could be any number of things that would cause people to vote one way or another. -- Susan, 21:21:17 09/14/08 Sun(c-67-175-97-132.hsd1.il.comcast.net/67.175.97.132)
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Are you aware of the power Dick Cheney has? He totally changed the VP position. I do not want someone who has even less experience than Dan Quayle in that job. He was enough of an embarrassment. Whoever told you that the VP doesn't do much is very much mistaken. As you can see here, she has no clue as to what the VP does.>> -- LB, 22:30:54 09/14/08 Sun(pool-71-252-80-51.washdc.east.verizon.net/71.252.80.51)
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Here's how many people think that Cheney handled the job.>> -- LB, 22:54:21 09/14/08 Sun(pool-71-252-80-51.washdc.east.verizon.net/71.252.80.51)
What does the vice-president do?
Tom Maertens
Recently on CNBC, Republican VP pick Sarah Palin asked what it is that vice presidents do.
Well, if you are Dick Cheney, you start your morning with an intelligence briefing, and if the intelligence doesn't fit your policies, then you dial up your Neocon proteges to fix the intelligence or fabricate other stories to support the administration's policies. Part of every day's agenda is to consider how best to use the U.S. military to take over some other country's oil and camouflage the move with a propaganda campaign.
After that, the VP probably has a staff meeting to brainstorm on how to undermine the Clean Air and Clean Water acts, and how best to kill Social Security and Medicare. This requires coordination with Grover Norquist and Steve Moore who are the point of the spear in bankrupting the government, which will then provide the excuse to cut entitlements. Staff can handle the coordination.
Then Cheney probably calls in David Addington and company to debate which new torture techniques the U.S. should adopt, and how best to circumvent existing treaties and the Constitution. Somebody must coordinate with Michael Muskasey and Justice so they know what investigations to kill or sidetrack.
At some point in the morning, the White House press spokesperson brings in the proposed propaganda points for the daily press follies. The VP either farms them out to his staff to clear, or if a coverup of press leaks on covert CIA agents is involved, then the VP himself probably reviews them personally.
Someone then must be detailed to call Fox News, the Washington Times and Rush Limbaugh to brief them on the official White House talking points, so that Roger Ailes and others can transmit the directives to staff members.
The Republican congressional leaders must also be called in to get their orders and memorize the latest propaganda attacks on Democrats. You know, "Four legs bad, two legs good" stuff.
There are usually other matters to take care of, such as contacting fundies, like Pat Robertson and James Dobson, to pass on the latest talking points and brief them on their role(s)in promoting the Republican agenda and denying global warming.
At some point, the VP himself has to track down Bush, usually on vacation or out biking, to inform him what the government will do that day.
Then there are the routine jobs the VP and his staff undertake on a daily basis, such as helping pass out slush fund money from the White House program on Faith-based Initiatives; finding ways to transfer taxpayers money to favored corporations and hand out more subsidies to Big Oil; eliminating Congressional oversight of the executive branch; issuing regulations that protect corporate tax shelters in Caribbean tax havens and Switzerland; continuing the consolidation of corporate media which answers to the RNC; finding new ways to bust unions and punish union organizers; issuing new regulations to support pharmaceutical companies, the financial, insurance, credit card and banking industries; and opening federal land to exploitation by hard-rock mining companies and the coastal regions to oil drilling.
There will always be the odd investigation to punish press leakers, and of course appointments to make in order to neutralize regulatory agencies and retaliate against whistle-blowers. Reports that the VP torments small animals in his spare time cannot be confirmed, and in any case, are not part of his official duties.
This schedule hardly leaves time for the VP to terrorize the bureaucracy and twist Fat Cats' arms for money. Beyond that, Cheney has to coordinate various cabals and conspiracies, including the one to subvert the Constitution, and the Neocons' plans to subvert/invade various foreign countries. Don't forget the Carlyle Group and relationships with Bush the Don (who handles the Moonie account, with its thousand front groups, and milks the Saudis), coordinating payments to clandestine agents of the unofficial Ministry of Truth, such as Armstrong Williams and Cubans "journalists" in Florida, using cutouts such as Karl Rove to set up 527s like Freedom's Watch and Swift Boat Veterans for Truth; and meeting with the highly secretive Council for National Policy. Did I mention the Illuminati?
So that's what the VP does. It's fair for Republicans to ask if Sarah Palin is up to this.
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In acordance with the Constitution--(The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.) --Other wise He should keep Himself ready to take over as President if necesary -- Raymond, 23:40:18 09/14/08 Sun(ip98-166-3-168.hr.hr.cox.net/98.166.3.168)
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That's right. He is also a member of the President's cabinet and his duties are assigned to him by the Pres. They can be very extensive or very limited. As we have seen in the case of Cheney, he can have far reaching influence and great power. -- LB, 00:04:49 09/15/08 Mon(pool-71-252-80-51.washdc.east.verizon.net/71.252.80.51)
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K.. dumb Canadian question.. shouldnt there be a health check done on someone that is going to be president.. some companies here have you screened before hiring you.. or is it because the people are voting that it doenst matter.... honestly.. could he go get life insurance from someone right now.. if not then maybe he shouldnt be trying to run a country.. just a question -- pattie, 07:20:28 09/15/08 Mon(bas4-london14-1088905373.dsl.bell.ca/64.231.96.157)
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Not a dumb question at all. It makes perfect sense but there is no health check required nor must the records be disclosed to hold the most important and stressful job in the world. >> -- LB, 09:32:48 09/15/08 Mon(pool-71-252-80-51.washdc.east.verizon.net/71.252.80.51)
Presidential candidates being required to disclose their health records has been posed as a possibility since Franklin Delano Roosevelt progressively lost his health while in office. However, there is still no requirement that medical records of candidates be revealed.
In America's presidential history eight presidents have died in office including several who died of illness: William Henry Harrison died of pneumonia; Zachary Taylor died of what at the time was called "acute indigestion"; Warren G. Harding died of a heart attack; and Franklin Delano Roosevelt died of cerebral hemorrhage (he also was a polio victim, had cardiovascular problems, and may have had cancer according to many historians). Ronald Reagan developed Alzheimers late in his presidency. The others were assassinated.
Being the President of the United States is a job that would produce stress in the most serene individual. He literally carries the weight of the world on his shoulders. Every decision he makes affects a multitude of people for good or for bad - from the economy, to health care, to war. He is the Commander in Chief of the largest military force in the world.
Obviously, an incredibly important factor in the big picture is who the vice presidential candidate is and what kind of president he or she would make. This becomes even more critcal if the President is past the age when most people are enjoying their retirement and has a history of serious medical problems. He may succumb at any time; we therefore must be aware of who will take over, should the worst case scenario occur.
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I found it deeply disturbing at the time the way the medical reports for Sen. McCain were distributed and even more so now. (long post inside. Sorry.) -- cyndi, 10:33:37 09/15/08 Mon(66-249-52-205.adsl.glbgil.grics.net/66.249.52.205)
I have little confidence in Sarah Palin's ability to lead the free world. It has nothing to do with her age or her skills as a parent. Her experience as mayor of a tiny town in a remote state and Governor of a state whose entire population is smaller than all of Chicago (I'm fuzzy on the size of Chicago this morning but I think Alaska=1/4 of Chicago) doesn't thrill me but I'm not condemning her for that, either. It's her attitudes and ideas that bother me. First and foremost, she is praised for her self confidence. What some may see as self confidence I found to be self satisfaction. I find that disturbing and unattractive in any individual but especially one who has to be able to move through the world at large and interact with people from the entire world in times that change as quickly as the blink of an eye. A person needs to be flexible in their thinking and have the ability to see things from other perspectives. Gov. Palin appears to me to be one of those people who thinks it's her way or the highway. We have one of those kinds of people in office right now and he has done irrepairable damage to this country. I want to see someone in office who is foreward thinking and able to move this country into the future. Beyond what I see as a flaw in her thought processes, the Governor and I do not agree on basic policy issues. I also don't agree with Senator McCain on most things. My lack of agreement is not a sign of disrespect for either person and I don't put her down for "being a hockey mom". I was a football, baseball and wrestling mom. I helped raise money for things, drove my son and his friends to practices and games, and did all the things that so many other women and some men do to keep a kid in sports. It was part of my role as a mother and I was glad to do it. I don't think what Mrs. Palin has done as a parent gives her a pass from the media by any means and she should have to answer all the tough questions that any other candidate for such a high office should have to answer. If she can't take the pressure of having to state her views and opinions to the media and the country what in the heck is she doing running for such a powerful position? To me, the McCain camp's decision to isolate her from the press makes me even more distrustful and cynical about her preparedness to take this office. Even if we were in a time of peace and prosperity, which we are not, to have a president die in office is very traumatic and wounding to a nation. Does she have what it would take to calm fears and take the reins in a way that would tell the world she was fully in charge from day one? I think not.
