That schedule once again will most likely put them high in the SOS category, but also may put them up there in the L category. I see this as a classic example of overscheduling and with the graduation of Carroll it will be interesting to see how the Hawks handle it. -- Fordham Rams Basketball Message Board

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Date Posted: Wed March 23, 2005 10:31:42
Author: JóDete93
Subject: That schedule once again will most likely put them high in the SOS category, but also may put them up there in the L category. I see this as a classic example of overscheduling and with the graduation of Carroll it will be interesting to see how the Hawks handle it.
In reply to: Rambacker 's message, "St. Joe's to Play in Madison Square Garden" on Wed March 23, 2005 09:33:01

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Agreed but SJU's OOC record would have been better this year had Carroll not been hurt early in the year. Just as we'll be looking for improvement from our young players, it will be interesting to see how guys like Ferguson, Calathes, and Jalloh improve. If they're healthy, Martelli will have them in most of those games. (NT) -- bfg, Wed March 23, 2005 10:41:29
- That is not the point. The point is that all it takes is one injury and your OOC is shot and then the conference's RPI suffers. That schedule lacks the two or three much needed gimmes. (NT) -- JóDete93, Wed March 23, 2005 10:47:01
  - Keep in mind this is an incomplete schedule. Those two gimmes will probably be added. (NT) -- Rambacker, Wed March 23, 2005 11:04:09
    - that's 11 OOC games. I think they could only add one more. (NT) -- bfg, Wed March 23, 2005 11:16:17
      - With 16 league games, that would make 27. Aren't college teams allowed to schedule 28 regular season games? More? (NT) -- Rambacker, Wed March 23, 2005 11:29:59
        I think 28 is the limit, so they would only get to add 1 more game. However, they only played 27 this year (like us) so they might not add another game. (NT) -- bfg, Wed March 23, 2005 11:33:01
        If that is the case, then this would appear to be too tough a schedule for them, based on who they have coming back/in. What I like about the schedule is the creative thinking with Gonzaga, St. Mary's, Kansas at MSG, possibly Marquette or Creighton. Nice job on selecting the opponents. We should consider a similar strategy as we move forward. (NT) -- Rambacker, Wed March 23, 2005 12:52:08
        28 is the limit, but the 28th game is allotted for the conference tournament. So when you boil it down for A-10 teams, you have 16 conference games, 11 OOC games, and 1 game allotted for the A-10 tournament. (NT) -- DonHo, Wed March 23, 2005 15:05:12
        Thanks for the clarification. (NT) -- Rambacker, Wed March 23, 2005 15:53:08
        That is what I had heard DonHo, but was not certain how true it was. Thanks for confirming. Here is a question for anybody that might now the answer: Do the Ivy League teams get to schedule an extra game since they do not have a league tournament or do they have to leave it open in case they have to go to a tie-break playoff game? (NT) -- JóDete93, Wed March 23, 2005 16:02:58
        Dete, I don't have the answer to your question. But along those same lines, I'm wondering if there is a special provision for teams in leagues that do not allow all of their teams in their conference tournaments (e.g. the C-USA setup until next season, the Big East except this season, and the A-10 beginning next year)? I don't think there is...but I'm curious to find out. (NT) -- DonHo, Wed March 23, 2005 16:44:46
        Is it official that the bottom two teams in the A-10 will not make the conf. tourney? I know it makes sense, but with Linda you never know. (NT) -- J92, Wed March 23, 2005 21:06:32
        The lowest two teams will play in the tournament, but will not be invited to the banquet. (NT) -- L. Bruno, Thu March 24, 2005 11:14:27
- From the games that I saw, St. Joe's was at their best when Carrol put the team on his back and carried them. They won't be able to do that next year, and with their only other proven scorer being Dwayne Jones, defenses will key on him. I look for the Hawks to take a few steps back next year, especially with that OC schedule. (NT) -- '02 Grad, Wed March 23, 2005 10:48:01
  - Actually, Stachitas averages more PPG than Jones. Jones is a decent scorer but a rebounding machine. The question is whether Stachitas can score as much w/o Carroll and/or how much of the slack will Jalloh and Lee pick up. My bet is that the Hawks do just fine next year. (NT) -- bfg, Wed March 23, 2005 10:59:35
    - True, but if you look at Stachitas' stats once Carrol started playing, they dropped dramatically. He started the season with strong numbers, but it was almost as if he was scoring by default because their offense struggled so much without Carroll. They will be fine, but I don't think there's anyway they'll be as impressive in conference as they were this year. We should finish ahead of them I would think, along with atleast 3-4 other A10 teams. (NT) -- '02 Grad, Wed March 23, 2005 11:22:24
      - Whoaaaaa! Lots of people were saying that about them this year. Let's not underestimate them, especially Martelli. He's the best coach (as of now) in the A-10 and they're going to compete for a top A-10 finish again next year. (NT) -- bfg, Wed March 23, 2005 11:25:01
        You are correct about that. I most definitely did not expect them to be the team they were this year. I concede. (NT) -- '02 Grad, Wed March 23, 2005 11:27:18
        I think Jalloh will step up in a big way next season, and I saw good potential from Ferguson also. A nice player. They also have a good wing shooter coming in as a frosh. They'll be in the thick of it, as usual, with Martelli's coaching. (NT) -- Rambacker, Wed March 23, 2005 11:33:22
        No need to concede. There's nothing better than some good give and take over college hoops, especially in March. (NT) -- bfg, Wed March 23, 2005 11:57:51
  - They will definitely be in the thick of things, perhaps even favored to win it again, but I still think that it would be in their best interest and that of the conference for them to schedule a bit easier. If any coach in the A-10 can get it done though, it will be Martelli. (NT) -- JóDete93, Wed March 23, 2005 11:42:09
    - For the record, gentelmen, Chet Stachitas injured his ankle in the San Francisco game. Since then, he was not afforded the opportunity to allow it to heal, so he's been playing with a sore ankle all season. He has only been practicing the day before a game since then. He put up games of 27 and 25 early in the season so he can fill it up when healthy. He will easily average 15-18 points/game next year. Hawks lose about 23 points a game with Carroll and Bryant leaving (21 of those Carroll's.) Several guys figure to improve and make up for that scoring loss. Hawks will be better, not worse. Also, who's coming to MSG to root on the Hawks next week?! (NT) -- 6th man, Thu March 24, 2005 13:49:07
      - I am going to do my best to get to MSG. It would be great to see an all Jesuit final with the Hawks taking on Georgetown, but I will take a Hawk victory irrespective of the opponent. (NT) -- JóDete93, Thu March 24, 2005 14:30:59
      - Come on, Its silly to say that Stachitas will "easily" avg 15-18 points. He got most of points bc defenses were so worried about Carroll. I think St. Joe's will be in the mix as usual, but I think Jalloh is going to be key for them. He made a lot of progress toward the end of the season. Stachitas at best will get 10 a game, and even that seems far fetched to me. (NT) -- Nrthjerseyram, Fri March 25, 2005 13:30:50
        Stachitas is currently averaging 10.8 points per game (good for second highest scoring average on the team despite a bad ankle) THIS year. So I guess it isn't far-fetched that he could duplicate what he did on a bad ankle and have at least 10 next year. 15 is the worst-case scenario next year for a healthy Stachitas. Book it. Also, last year, people said that Carroll got most of his points because people were focusing on Nelson and West. Without Nelson and West, Carroll's scoring average went way up. So there goes that theory. (NT) -- 6th man, Sat March 26, 2005 13:29:12

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