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  • opinions needed -- Ali, 15:45:02 11/07/09 Sat
    Hello, I've recently read through the first three books and am having difficulty understanding Claire's decision to live with Frank after she must leave Jamie. Does anyone else feel angry at her like I do? She's a very independent woman, and I wonder how she could betray Jamie and her daughter like that. I think I'm also having difficulty reconciling her two marriages in general. If I were Jamie, I'd be really upset that she continued to wear and even "cradle" Frank's ring, and in the second book, she's always defensive AGAINST her decision to not go back to the future.

    Does anyone else here have trouble with this?

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  • A Breath of Snow and Ashes Summary? -- Jackie, 15:12:00 11/02/09 Mon
    Hi Ladies,

    I've been following the series for many years but I read A Breath of Snow and Ashes when it first came out. I'm currently back in school and don't have very much time for recreational reading but wanted a refresher in regards to what happened in the last novel before moving on to Echo. Does anyone know where I can find a fairly detailed summary (the major events that occurred?)

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  • I know this has come up before, but I'll write it down this time,,, -- MacPudel, 18:15:40 11/07/09 Sat
    Diana has mentioned one word "themes" for each of the books. Would someone please refresh my memory?

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  • QOTD for Friday, November 6, 2009 -- kgp, 18:14:48 11/05/09 Thu
    The following quote is taken from A Breath of Snow and Ashes by Diana Gabaldon, Chapter 84. Among The Lettuces. Copyright© 2005 by Diana Gabaldon. All rights reserved.



    "I glanced at the open gate, ready to run - but saw nothing. The ruined hive lay just as I'd seen it, the wax combs broken and squashed, the smell of honey thick in the air. But the combs were not scattered; shattered pillars of wax still stuck to the exposed wooden base of the hive.

    A bee zoomed menacingly past my ear and I ducked, but didn't run. It was quiet. I tried to stop panting, trying to hear over the thunder of my own racing pulse. Bears weren't quiet; they didn't need to be. I should hear snufflings and gulping noises, at least - rustlings of broken foliage, the lap of a long tongue. I didn't.

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  • QOTD for Thursday, November 5, 2009 -- kgp, 18:59:25 11/04/09 Wed
    The following quote is taken from A Breath of Snow and Ashes by Diana Gabaldon, Chapter 50. Sharp Edges. Copyright© 2005 by Diana Gabaldon. All rights reserved.



    "It was Allan Christie who opened the door to Roger's brusque knock. A leaner, darker version of his owl-faced father, he blinked slowly at the question as to Malva's whereabouts.

    "Why … she's gone to the stream," he said. "Gathering rushes, she said." He frowned. "Why do ye want her?"

    "Mrs. Fraser needs her to come and help with - with something." Something moved inside; the back door opening. Tom Christie came in, a book in his hand, the page he'd been reading caught between two fingers.

    "MacKenzie," he said, with a short jerk of the head in acknowledgement. "Did ye say Mrs. Fraser is wanting Malva? Why?" He frowned as well, the two Christies looking exactly like a pair of barn owls contemplating a questionable mouse."

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  • QOTD for Wednesday, November 3, 2009 -- kgp, 19:01:25 11/03/09 Tue
    The following quote is taken from A Breath of Snow and Ashes by Diana Gabaldon, Chapter 58. Love One Another. Copyright© 2005 by Diana Gabaldon. All rights reserved.



    "Jem's asleep," she said softly, and he heard the surprisingly deep, slow breathing from the trundle. She put a hand on his chest, the other some-what lower.

    A little while later, drifting toward dreamland himself, he heard her say something, and tried to rouse enough to ask her what it was, but managed only a small interrogative "Mm?"

    "I've always thought I do have a calling," she repeated, looking upward at the shadows in the beamed ceiling. "Something I was meant to do. But I don't know what it is."

    "Well, ye definitely weren't meant to be a nun," he said drowsily. "Beyond that - I couldna say."

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  • QOTD for Tuesday, November 3, 2009 -- kgp, 17:32:53 11/02/09 Mon
    The following quote is taken from A Breath of Snow and Ashes by Diana Gabaldon, Chapter 28. Curses. Copyright© 2005 by Diana Gabaldon. All rights reserved.

    "Killed by the Iroquois," I said. "The Mohawk." My mind was beginning, very slowly, to work again. Six years ago, this man - whoever he was - had come. 1767, that would be. And yet Otter-Tooth, the man who had once been Robert Springer, had died more than a generation earlier. They'd started out together, but ended up in different times.

    "Shit," he said, though the obvious distress in his voice was mingled with something like awe. "That would have been a real bummer, especially for Bob. He, like, idolized those guys."

    "Yes, I expect he was most put out about it," I replied, rather dryly."

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  • QOTD for Monday, November 2, 2009 -- kgp, 19:09:00 11/01/09 Sun
    The following quote is taken from A Breath of Snow and Ashes by Diana Gabaldon, Chapter 20. Dangerous Gifts. Copyright© 2005 by Diana Gabaldon. All rights reserved.



    "Bobby, meanwhile, was entertaining Jamie and Ian with imitations of Hiram Crombie's response to the discovery that he might possibly share some family connections with the Wilsons. Ian, between bursts of laughter, translated the matter for the Indians, who all rolled on the grass in paroxysms of mirth.

    "Do they have an Ephraim Wilson in their family tree?" I asked, taking a firm grip of Miss Mousie's chin.

    "Well, they're not sure of the 'Ephraim,' but aye, they do." Jamie grinned broadly. "Their grandsire was a Scottish wanderer. Stayed long enough to get their grandmother wi' child, then fell off a cliff and was buried by a rockslide. She marrit again, of course, but liked the name."

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  • QOTD for November 1, 2009 -- kgp, 19:15:33 10/31/09 Sat
    The following quote is taken from A Breath of Snow and Ashes by Diana Gabaldon, Chapter 6. Ambush. Copyright© 2005 by Diana Gabaldon. All rights reserved.



    "He wondered dimly who was gone, but it didn't seem to matter much. If it was trouble Uncle Jamie would deal with it. The thought was comforting; he felt like a small boy, safe in bed, hearing his father's voice outside, talking to a tenant in the cold dark of a Highland dawn.

    Warmth spread slowly over him beneath the quilt, and he slept."

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  • QOTD for Saturday, October 31, 2009 -- Cherie, 18:26:11 10/30/09 Fri

    The following quote is taken from The Fiery Cross by Diana Gabaldon, Chapter 29 "One-Third of a Goat" © 2001. All Rights Reserved

    "He would have killed me too--but Mary Ann thopped him."

    "How did she do that?"

    She drew a deep breath and sighed, settling herself on the gound. There was a faint, sleepy bleat from her lap, and I realized that she was holding the kid again. I relaxed my grip on the knife; she couldn't hardly attack me with a lapful of goat.

    She had, she said, gone out to speak to Mary Ann whenever the moon was high; the ghostly woman appeared under the rowan tree only between half-moon wax and half-moon wane--not in the dark of the moon, or at cresent.

    "Very Particular," I murmured, but she didn't notice, being too absorbed in the story.

    This had gone on for some months. Mary Ann had told Fanny Beardsley who she was, informed her of the fate of her predecessors, and the manner or her own death.

    "He choked her," Fanny confided. "I could see the markth of his handth on her throat. Sshe warned me that he would do the thame to me, one day.""



    Happy Halloween everyone!!! I've had a lot of fun bringing you these spooky quotes. There is a ton of freaky stuff in these books *G*

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  • QOTD for Friday, October 30, 2009 -- Cherie, 21:29:52 10/29/09 Thu

    The following quote is taken from A Breath of Snow and Ashes by Diana Gabaldon, Chapter 39 "I Am The Resurrection" © 2005. All Rights Reserved

    ""Grannie!"

    Jemmy was wriggling as though a colony of ants had taken up residence in his breeches, an expression of agonized urgency on his face.

    "I am the Resurrection and the Life, Saith the Lord; he that believeth in Me, though he were dead...rr-hm...yet shall he live--" With the end in sight, Roger was making a gallant finish, forcing his voice past its limits, hoarser than ever and cracking on every other word, but firm and loud.

    "Just a minute," I hissed. "I'll take you out in a --"

    "No, Grannie! Look!"

    I followed his outthrust finger, and for a moment, thought he was pointing at his father. But he wasn't.

    Old Mrs. Wilson had opened her eyes."

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  • Holiday Card Exchange -- RisaB, 06:41:12 10/31/09 Sat
    Get your cards, stamps, and pens ready Hosers, it’s that time of the year! For those who are new to the boards or have never participated in the Holiday Card exchange, I’ll give you a brief rundown of the details. Each year Hosers from all over the world exchange cards as a way to spread a little joy and celebrate our friendships. In order to participate, all you need to do is send me a little information and I’ll get you on the list. Here’s how it works:

    1. Decide how many cards you would like to send. I will do like Michelle did in years past and divide the list up into groups of 10. You can choose to send 10, 20, 30, 40, or you can do the whole list.

    2. Send me how many cards you would like to send, your full name, your board nickname, and your complete address (country too!). Ex:
    James Fraser aka Sassenach Lover
    123 White Sow Drive
    Fraser’s Ridge, NC 12345
    USA
    20 cards

    3. If you don’t want to receive religious themed cards, not a problem, just include that information under your address.

    4. Send all the above information to lolrisab at yahoo dot com. I’m going to set the last day for you to send me your information as December 1, 2009. I’ll email you your list a few days after that. Make sure to check your spam boxes for the lists; this has been an issue in years past.

    If you have any questions, please feel free to email me at lolrisab at yahoo dot com.

    Just a quick update for those people who have already sent me their information; I sent you an email confirmation so you'd know I got your info. If you didn't get an email and you sent me your stuff, try sending it again or leave me a message here.



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  • Echo got me thinking (not a spoiler) - there's another stray time traveller out there. Who fixed Duncan Innes' cleft palate? I believe it's in ABOSA when Claire is treating him that she notices his mustache hides a scar from a cleft palate repair. That wasn't an 18th century surgery. Diana usually ties up the loose ends when we meet a TT (like Otter Tooth or Geillis Duncan). I wonder who else is out there? -- MacPudel, 09:54:07 10/29/09 Thu
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  • Large Print & hardcover -- Linda B. D., 13:27:02 10/26/09 Mon
    I am trying to find all the Outlander books in large print, hardcover. It would be great if I could buy them all at once. I've looked through several sites including Amazon, but it seems there is only 1-2 books in large print, and they are in paperback. Does anyone know where I can order these? If I knew the publishers name, that would help. Thank You, Linda B. D.

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  • QOTD for Thursday, October 29, 2009 -- Cherie, 21:31:47 10/28/09 Wed
    The following quote is taken from Drums of Autumn by Diana Gabaldon, Chapter 58 "The Skull Beneath the Skin" © 1997. All Rights Reserved

    "Very cold, in spite of the fire at my back. As cold as I had been in the lost, fireless dark, alone on the mountain with a dead man's head. For the late sun now struck sparks from my hands: from the silver band of my wedding ring--and from the silver fillings in my late companion's mouth.

    I sat staring for a moment, then turned the skull over and set it gently down on the desk, careful as though it were made of glass. "My God," I said, all tiredness forgotten. "My God," I said, to the empty eyes and the lopsided grin. "Who were you?""

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  • Question for Kindle users, inside 1st reply -- Carol P, 19:36:32 10/26/09 Mon
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  • QOTD for Wednesday, October 28, 2009 -- Cherie, 22:00:59 10/27/09 Tue
    The following quote is taken from Voyager by Diana Gabaldon, Chapter 58 "Masque of the Red Death" © 1994. All Rights Reserved

    "Mina Alcott lay sprawled across the red velvet chaise, her head hanging backward over the edge, her skirts in disarray about her neck. Her eyes were open, fixed in upside-down surprise. The blood from her severed throat had turned the velvet black beneath her, and dripped down into a large pool beneath her head. Her light brown hair had come loose from its dressing, the matted ends of her ringlets dangling in the puddle.

    I stood frozen, too paralyzed even to call for help. Then I heard the sound of gay voices in the hallway outstide, and the door pushed open. There was a moment's silences as the woman behind me saw it too.

    Light from the corridor spilled through the door and across the floor, and in the moment before the screaming began, I saw the footprints leading towards the window--the small neat prints of a felt-soled foot, outlined in blood."

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  • QOTD for Monday, October 26, 2009 -- Cherie, 19:18:59 10/25/09 Sun
    The following quote is taken from Outlander by Diana Gabaldon, Chapter 8 "An Evening's Entertainment" © 1991. All Rights Reserved


    "There was one I noticed particulary, about the man out late at night upon a fairy hill, who heard the sound of a woman singing "sad and plaintive" from the very rocks of the hill. He listened more closely and heard the words:

    "I am the wife of the Laird of Balnain
    The Folk have stolen me over again.""

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  • QOTD for Tuesday, October 27, 2009 -- Cherie, 21:13:36 10/26/09 Mon
    The following quote is taken from Dragonfly in Amber by Diana Gabaldon, Chapter 27 "An Audience with His Majesty" © 1992. All Rights Reserved

    "I did know that the cup I held in my hands was death. The white crystal hung around my neck, its weight a reminder of poison. I hadn't seen Raymond add anything to it; no one had, I was sure. But I didn't need to dip the crystal into the bloodred liquid to know what it now contained.

    The Comte saw the knowledge in my face; La Dame Blanche cannot lie. He hesitated, looking at the bubbling cup.

    "Drink, Monsieur," said the King. The dark eyes were hooded once more, showing nothing. "Or are you afraid?""

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  • QOTD for Sunday, October 25, 2009 -- Cherie, 18:18:02 10/24/09 Sat
    The following quote is taken from Outlander by Diana Gabaldon, Prologue © 1991.

    “ People disappear all the time. Ask any policeman.
    Better yet, ask a journalist. Disappearances are bread-and-butter to journalists.

    Young girls run away from home. Young children stray from their parents and are never seen again. Housewives reach the end of their tether and take the grocery money and a taxi to the station. International financiers change their names and vanish into the smoke of imported cigars.

    Many of the lost will be found, eventually, dead or alive. Disappearances, after all, have explanations.

    Usually.”



    I'm still in Surrey so I'm posting early. I hope you will enjoy the week

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  • I have a question.... In FC when jamie has been bitten by the Rattlesnake, and he and Roger are talking that night about all he need to know in case Jamie does not make it. He tells Roger to give his sword to Jem and that he is proud of Bree, and when Roger asks what should he tell Claire Jamie replies tell her "I meant it" What is he meaning here? I have read it many times even listened on audio and still am confused. -- BrandyC, 22:52:18 10/25/09 Sun
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  • Okay, a little chuckle at my expense. Some of you may know that I am in grad school and will not be reading Echo until xmas break. Remember I won the signed copy from the All About Romance website? Well, here I am at the library all day studying Public Health and Research and my hubby is home reading Echo. His comment so far, "boy, she really takes the sex scenes up a notch. Too bad you won't get to read it until xmas." Maybe I will have to home a bit earlier tonight. -- Happy Sunday! Lady Jen F ;), 10:10:18 10/25/09 Sun
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  • Question Ladies, In Outlander, Frank tells Claire there was a man outside her window in full Highland dress, staring up at her window. Is this Jamie? Is event ever addressed, what is the point? Was it meant as a premonition by DG? -- Catherine S., 04:51:37 10/23/09 Fri
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  • There was a quote somewhere in here describing Bree's friend seeing Roger (in our time) and describing him as looking like a pirate. Most of us today think of pirates being glamorous, sexy (Jonny Depp anyone?) etc. Does anyone have any thoughts on Bree's (normal 20th century woman) attraction to that dark pirate thing and then her inner confusion (not a strong enough word but you know what I mean) after Steven Bonnet? Remember the book Claire was reading in the doctors' room about a pirate ravishing some chick? No doubt Bree has read similar and no doubt she (and all of us) has some tiny fantasy about this sort of thing. To be confronted with the reality was clearly horrifying beyond words but there must have been a part inside Bree somewhere wanting it - at least until it happened. Would mess my mind I know. -- Jayn, 09:13:46 10/25/09 Sun
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  • QOTD for Saturday, October 24, 2009 -- ErinD, 05:02:32 10/24/09 Sat
    The following quote is taken from Outlander by Diana Gabaldon, Chapter 26, "The Laird's Return" © 1991.

    She was smaller than I had expected. With a brother like Jamie, I had imagined her at least my height, or even taller, but the woman by the fire barely reached five feet. Her back was to us as she reached for something on the shelf of the china cabinet, and the ends of her dress sash dipped close to the floor.

    . . .

    The faces were much alike; the same oddly slanted dark blue eyes and broad cheekbones. The same thin, blade-bridged nose, just a trifle too long. But she was dark where Jamie was fair, with cascades of black curly hair, bound back with green ribbon.

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  • QOTD for Friday, October 23, 2009 -- ErinD, 04:48:11 10/23/09 Fri
    The following quote is taken from Drums of Autumn by Diana Gabaldon, Chapter 41 "Journey's End” © 1997.

    Fergus Fraser might sound like a Scottish clansman; he looked like a French noble. A French noble on his way to the guillotine, Brianna silently amended her first impression.
    Handsomely dark, slightly built, and not very tall, he sauntered into the dock, and turned to face the room, long nose lifted an inch above the usual. The shabby clothes, the unshaven jaw, and the large purple bruise over one eye subtracted nothing from his air of aristocratic disdain. Even the curved metal hook that he wore in replacement of a missing hand only added to the impression of disreputable glamour.

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  • Holiday Card Exchange -- RisaB, 08:00:23 10/24/09 Sat
    Get your cards, stamps, and pens ready Hosers, it’s that time of the year! For those who are new to the boards or have never participated in the Holiday Card exchange, I’ll give you a brief rundown of the details. Each year Hosers from all over the world exchange cards as a way to spread a little joy and celebrate our friendships. In order to participate, all you need to do is send me a little information and I’ll get you on the list. Here’s how it works:

    1. Decide how many cards you would like to send. I will do like Michelle did in years past and divide the list up into groups of 10. You can choose to send 10, 20, 30, 40, or you can do the whole list.

    2. Send me how many cards you would like to send, your full name, your board nickname, and your complete address (country too!). Ex:
    James Fraser aka Sassenach Lover
    123 White Sow Drive
    Fraser’s Ridge, NC 12345
    USA
    20 cards

    3. If you don’t want to receive religious themed cards, not a problem, just include that information under your address.

    4. Send all the above information to lolrisab at yahoo. I’m going to set the last day for you to send me your information as December 1, 2009. I’ll email you your list a few days after that. Make sure to check your spam boxes for the lists; this has been an issue in years past.

    If you have any questions, please feel free to email me at lolrisab at yahoo.

    Just a quick update for those people who have already sent me their information; I sent you an email confirmation so you'd know I got your info. If you didn't get an email and you sent me your stuff, try sending it again.



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  • next book -- mrs putty, 06:00:49 10/21/09 Wed
    I have heard a rumour, from a reasonably reliable source, that suggests the 8th book is already written and will be on the shelves before Christmas 09. I think this may be possible ane/or originated by something DG is suposed to have said about EITB being done but too long for one book. Any ideas?

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  • A question about Lord John characters -- KarenV, 06:37:03 10/22/09 Thu
    A short time ago, someone posted a brief history of what you should know from the Lord John books in order to understand Echo in the Bone. I've started Echo, and I would like to get that background information. Can anyone help me? Many thanks!

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  • QOTD for Wednesday, October 21, 2009 -- ErinD, 18:36:34 10/20/09 Tue
    The following quote is taken from Voyager by Diana Gabaldon, Chapter 25, “House of Joy” © 1994.

    I didn’t know quite what I had been expecting. In fact, the sight of his naked body took my breath away. He was still tall, of course, and beautifully made, the long bones of his body sleek with muscle, elegant with strength. He glowed in the candlelight, as though the light came from within him.
    He had changed, of course, but the change was subtle; as though he had been put into an oven and baked to a hard finish. He looked as though both muscle and skin had drawn in just a bit, grown closer to the bone, so he was more tightly knit; he had never seemed gawky, but the last hint of boyish looseness had vanished.
    His skin had darkened slightly, to a pale gold, burned to bronze on face and throat, paling down the length of his body to a pure white, tinged with blue veins, in the hollow of his thighs. His pubic hair stood out in a ferocious auburn bush, and it was quite obvious that he had not been lying; he did want me, and very badly.

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