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Date Posted: 08:15:44 05/27/12 Sun
Author: Anon For This
Subject: I'd like some opinions about my rental situation and landlord relationship

In March, I moved into a cottage with access to the bathroom and kitchen in the main house. The landlady, "Katrina" courted me actively, in our initial interview when I responded to her ad, to take this cottage; she told me several times that I was welcome to store my extra belongings in the basement; that I could feel free to "hang out" in the dining room of the main house; that it would be nice to cook meals together (she has two middle school children of whom she has primary custody.) >>>> Inside the first post. This will go long.

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[> Inside, please>>>> -- Anon For This, 08:53:26 05/27/12 Sun

Aware that the main house is small and three people already live there, I asked her how they would feel about the loss of privacy, with a tenant --and essentially a stranger, at first-- coming into their living space to use the kitchen and bathroom on an impromptu basis, and Katrina said, "Oh, I'm a very easy going person. It will be fine." I went into my schedule in some detail and asked again, "Will this be a problem with all of us needing the bathroom early in the morning, trying to get to work, to school, etc. I was assured it wouldn't be. (It hasn't. I'm up way before the family.) This interview was in February. Prior to moving in in March, I did have a couple of indicators that something was a bit "off" about the situation: When I called her to confirm my move-in date, which was to happen after the floor of the cottage was installed, Katrina was vague and distracted and hemmed and hawed a bit, saying well, yeah, I guess I can do that, as if we hadn't discussed any firm dates. I then got an email saying, yes, the cottage would be ready by the agreed-upon date but "If I found something else in the meantime, no worries." I told her, no I didn't want anyplace else, I wanted her cottage, which is why I answered her ad in the first place. So, I moved in. After some of my things were stored in the basement, she told me it leaks in rainy weather. So, into the cottage my books went. Immediately, her whole sunny, open personality changed, and she let me know the family was tolerating my (infrequent) intrusions into their home. Her children never smile; almost never have friends in or go anywhere; and she is extremely enmeshed in their lives. The house has an atmosphere of tension, but Katrina "presented" extremely well in our first meeting. Even my friends were charmed by her. She behaves ill-at-ease around me and gives off "guilty" vibes (I am scrupulous in showering and cooking only when no one is home and I eat meals in my cottage, trying to invade their privacy as little as possible. I walk the dog regularly --I wish I liked K as much as I do her dog-- and water the yard. I'm trying only to relate relevant facts here, pertaining to my tenant/landlord situation, but a bit of context is added.) As soon as I moved in, I stayed at a friend's place for two weeks, caring for her cats, as she had to go out of town to deal with a family emergency. So, Katrina didn't see me for a couple of weeks. As soon as I came back "home" to the cottage, about two and a half weeks after moving in, she informed me that she was planning further construction to add a kitchen and bathroom, creating a self-contained small house, and the rent would be going up in a few months. I had just moved my furniture in. I told her I would've appreciated the Big Picture about her long range plans for the cottage in advance, prior to moving in. Katrina never called my references --excellent, by the way-- and I've signed no rental agreement. She did inform me a couple of days ago that my rent will double --no big shock-- and I will be asked for "first and last" and will have to sign an agreement. I have decided upon a course of action: I want to live around happier people; I want a landlord I can trust who is not a flake; I am looking for another place to live; I will tell her very soon (they're out of town now) that I am looking for another place, but will be able to pay the first month of the increased rent; that if I move out for several days due to construction (remember, my stuff is all in here) I expect a decrease in rent for that month; I also --I'm not telling her this-- will contact the local rent board to find out what my rights, if any, are as a tenant. Remember, I've signed nothing. In short, nothing she initially told me has been true, and she was not honest about the overall plan. I would expect anything --including her having another tenant waiting in the wings that she plans to give the cottage to, evicting me in the process. I find it odd that she never called my references and she has two young children! Another caveat: I found the cottage through an internet group that I belong to; a women-helping-women group; so, since I plan to advertise for something there (without going into all this detail) she may know about it. Katrina is not a member of the group, but a friend of hers is, who initially posted. I'd like the wise people of Lallybroch to weigh in on my situation.

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[> [> Be careful! The lack of written agreement and sudden change of terms looks very bad to me. I'd move into another place ASAP and explain to her (once you have somewhere to go) that the new terms are not what you expected or are able to comply with. Oh, and please take photos of everything- your belongings and the state of the cottage- and store them offsite, just in case. Do that now. -- SueW (worrit), 12:18:24 05/27/12 Sun


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[> [> [> Verry good idea, SueW! -- Oatcake, 12:37:36 05/27/12 Sun


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[> My first thought was : Katrina is a multiple personality... Since I'm not sure, they really exist, I think there are two possibilities. 1. She does have a psychological problem. 2. She decided, she wants to rent the cottage to someone else, as you already concluded. The situation is weird. I'd be much more worried though, had you written that you have put in t ime or money for improvement of the cottage. About the fact that you've not signed anything: that could be an advantage as well as a disadvantage; depending on what she's going to come up with in the near future. I keep my fingers crossed you get out of this without trouble and that you'll soon find a better place to move to. The feeling of not being welcome is a nightmare to me... Good luck, lass! -- Oatcake, 12:35:16 05/27/12 Sun


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[> I would get out of there as soon as possible. All my warning flags go up with this situation and I think your stuff might be damaged or even disappear if you don't get it out fast. To me it is obvious she wants you out. The fact that there is nothing written can be to your advantage - make it so by not telling her about your plans before you actually have something else. Look for a new place somewhere else than through that group, so that she doesn't find out. She sounds really weird, who knows what she might "accidentally" do to your belongings. -- Patricia, 13:04:26 05/27/12 Sun


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[> My friend reacted as strongly as all of you are reacting. She used words like "sociopathic" and "hysteric." Katrina is a staff writer for a major newspaper and I think she was putting on her Reporter personality for me during the initial interview. I would really love to advertise through my internet group, since that's why I joined it in the first place! I'm going to put the word out every way I can. I don't feel that my belongings are in any danger. Things are okay in the day-to-day, but you're right about her unpredictability. This is especially difficult for me, since I just got everything out of storage and got a desk given to me, the timing of which I couldn't change. -- Anon For This., 13:26:30 05/27/12 Sun


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[> [> Thanks, Ladies. Storage would also be difficult. Plus, anywhere I advertise, Katrina is also likely to see, like Craigslist. This is why I need (I think) to talk with her about the next couple of months, which is how long I think it may take. Moving will take all day. But, you're right. She's devious and possibly unstable, and talking will be tricky. In my experience, you don't make a bad situation better by tiptoeing around it. I think a frank discussion could clear the air a bit. Just up and leaving within the next 48 hours isn't possible, I'm afraid. -- Anon For This., 13:35:38 05/27/12 Sun


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[> Without a signed lease, I can't see that you are under any obligation to your landlord. Get out fast and pay through your last day of occupancy. Even if this means that you have to temporarily park your stuff with some friends and sleep on someone's couch for a week or two. Don't waste your time seeking answers with a "rental board." To me, going to a rental board signals that you want to stay put and deal with this nut-job. Why? IMHO you need to put distance between yourself and this rental situation pronto. All you need to say is that your plans changed and you found a better situation. -- Joyce Mc, 13:39:06 05/27/12 Sun


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[> [> I totally agree! -- ScarlettO, 15:08:49 05/27/12 Sun


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[> [> I was thinking along the same lines as Joyce - no signed lease, so you have no real obligation to her. It's her fault for not signing you up with proper legal papers (seriously? Who DOES that?!). I'm totally in agreement also that you should get out of there ASAP, after paying what you owe, so that she has no grievances. She does sound like a whack-job, so the sooner you GET OUT, the better! -- Leigh, 18:16:24 05/27/12 Sun


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[> [> Thanks, Joyce Mc. I'm looking at a place this week where a friend manages the building, and the landlord has so far taken all her recommendations. Katrina doesn't have permits yet; has just hired a contractor; and has yet to draw up plans. I do plan to move ASAP; and no I won't contact the Rent Board. I don't want to negotiate, I want to leave. And I'll tell her I've found something that "suits my needs better." When I've asked about a construction timeline, she has told me "not to worry, you'll get plenty of notice," but naturally I don't take anything she says seriously. I'll keep you posted. Thanks for the input, everyone! At the glacial rate my city --notorious for its Byzantine permit process-- does things, she could wind up with an empty cottage, in permit limbo, with no tenant, for months. It would serve her right. -- Anon For This., 22:24:16 05/27/12 Sun


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[> She sounds like BAD news so please try to get the hell out of there before she does something nasty! ((((((((((((( Anon )))))))))) -- Judie, 14:44:43 05/27/12 Sun


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[> I'm in agreement with Joyce. You have no legally binding lease agreement with this woman, so you are under no obligation to her. That's her own fault for not signing you up with proper legal documents - WHO the heck does that?! Anyway, I am also in agreement that you need to get OUT of there ASAP! She sounds totally unpredictable and the fact that you feel uncomfortable there is your own gut instinct telling you the situation is not right for you. Pay her what you owe and get out. -- Leigh, 18:20:36 05/27/12 Sun


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[> I agree with everyone else. GET OUT OF THERE!! Do you have any real estate agency's in your town/city who deal with rentals. They may be able to help you. Good luck lass! -- CarolE, 07:45:44 05/28/12 Mon


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[> This sounds like something out of an episode of Criminal Minds or Law & Order! I had a flaky landlady once, she evicted us (with a court order) less than a week after we moved in! Without a written/signed agreement, you won't get far with the rent board. (I had a signed rental agreement and she still was able to evict us with no reasonable cause) I would get out as fast as possible, she sounds like she has Borderline Personality Disorder or something and is not someone you want to be around. Sounds like the potential to be accused of something and then it's your word against hers. Good luck. -- Colly, 20:11:00 05/30/12 Wed


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