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Date Posted: 07:41:35 03/02/09 Mon
Author: CatherineM.
Subject: The idea that Jefferson had so much more power over a black "echo" of his own wif is indeed disturbig and fascinating . . I came of age in the civil rights and feminist era and I know that the two movements look simultaneous, but aren't quite. All of us women owe a huge debt to the black women fighting for racial equality alongside their brothers and husbands and fathers who then asked the hard questions about gender equality when they realized that so many of their men were not keen to see their wives and sisters and daughters as equals to themselves. The pattern in here of having to make choices between racial and gender issues is really interesting.
In reply to: JessieR 's message, "HollyC—I agree! Phaedre was the most defenseless of this foursome, and you rightly point out the sexual vulnerability that slave women faced. I think this explains why Sally Hemings can grip one’s imagination, especially since she is one of the few slave women with an identity known far beyond that of the plantation on which she lived. She has a name and a story! In fact, her name and “story” have appeared and reappeared in the historical record since 1799. And yet, for all that has been said and written about her, there is no record of her own words. Maybe she was illiterate; maybe not. Either way, she is the silent figure in this controversy, and what a deafening silence that is." on 07:17:22 02/28/09 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> It is fascinating how the womans/black movements influenced each other. It's my understanding that a forceful female suffrage movement in the early to mid 1800s was deliberately put on the back burner and turned to an abolition movement because many of the ladies thought slavery the bigger evil. Your point about the black men wanting the subservience of their women makes me realize people are a lot more alike than they are different. I remember white men with the same ideas. Are the ideas of inequality the result of requirements to survive in a particular time, or maybe just a shared human desire to control other people? Maybe that's a trait we all still have, though we've found other ways to express it (I'm thinking of our politicians). Do we just like bossing others? -- Carol P, 18:49:39 03/02/09 Mon


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