Now that's an interesting speculation. We don't know when Jocasta found out about Hector and Betty. But from what we know about MacKenzie's and Hector Cameron, either or both scenerios make sense to me. And did it mean anything to Hector? That's one of the things I've never understood about the stories of half white babes on plantations. How does any man abide his children living in slavery? But apparently they all did, so maybe if you own slaves, the offspring somehow are not really your children? -- Broch Talk

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Date Posted: 18:10:15 03/02/09 Mon
Author: Carol P
Subject: Now that's an interesting speculation. We don't know when Jocasta found out about Hector and Betty. But from what we know about MacKenzie's and Hector Cameron, either or both scenerios make sense to me. And did it mean anything to Hector? That's one of the things I've never understood about the stories of half white babes on plantations. How does any man abide his children living in slavery? But apparently they all did, so maybe if you own slaves, the offspring somehow are not really your children?
In reply to: CatherineM. 's message, "I'd like to hear more of you all think about Jocasta's decision (though perhaps it was Hector's) to bring Phaedre up as her body slave in the first place. Yes, Phaedre's life was more comfortable in material ways than the lives of other slaves, but is her position there a consequence of Jocasta's altruism, or a sort of subtle revenge that Hector's "get" will never be free?" on 06:58:15 03/02/09 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> In another series of books that I like to read, one of the characters says "How can a man bear fruit one woman and call it an heir, and with another and call it a slave? As if the offspring were less than human. What pride did the man possess to spill his seed in the dam in the first place? They might as well lie with their livestock." It would seem men of that period didn't consider those offspring to be children or the women, they were only property...I am SO GLAD I didn't live with men who could feel that way about another human being. -- Jane, 19:46:26 03/05/09 Thu

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I'm with you, Jane, in being glad I don't have to associate with folk who could justify such injustice. But what is the other series you reference? -- Carol P, 18:42:29 03/06/09 Fri

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> The Series is Raised By Wolves, the first three volumes are Brethren, Matelots, and Treasure by W.A. Hoffman. You would like this character's take on slavery. After he gives a coin to his lawyer's slave, to take his too hot clothing back to the house after a party, the other's say something like "You don't understand about slavery, you don't have to pay them.". He replies that they are right, what he doesn't understand is "Why they don't kill you all in your sleep, I certainly would." I LOVE these books! I find the two main characters as appealing as Jamie (obviously not as moral, they are pirates after all, but deep thinking, educated, gifted with languages, passionate in their love for each other) They are both damaged by childhood abuses that drove them from their homes. The books are gay historical fiction, not for everyone. Not many of these men would have chosen men as their first choice and yet somehow they find love on those primitive ships in a very violent world. -- Jane, 08:03:05 03/07/09 Sat

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