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Date Posted: 01:37:02 03/22/09 Sun
Author: Helka
Subject: The #4 is >>>>> AND NO PEAKING *VBG*>>>
In reply to: LisaW 's message, "MelvaT’s Word Jumbles" on 16:07:40 03/20/09 Fri

the war cry tulach ard, I guess.

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[> Ok, here is my try. I didn't find them all that hard, but then I'm probably more familiar with Gaelic in a general way, so don't find words or phrases in the Books to be difficult : ) >>>>> -- Elenna, 11:44:59 03/23/09 Mon

1. leasg - lazy, unwilling, slothful

2. ballag-buachair - the Death's Cap mushroom...ballag meaning 'skull' and buachair is 'mushroom or fungus'(Which is something I am familiar with by training...however I cannot find a 'Books' reference for it, and it is also actually correctly spelled ballag-bhuachair, so perhaps I have this one incorrect!)

3. drammach - brose...an uncooked porrage made from meal (oats or barley most usually) and water

4. Tulach Ard - The Clan Mackenzie slogan. It means "The High Hillock" (ie, the clan gathering place)

5. tannasg - a ghost or spirit

6. sguir - stop, cease

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[> [> You win Elenna. :-) -- Miss Michele, 10:46:11 03/24/09 Tue


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[> [> [> So Elenna, how would you feel about posting phonetic pronounciations of those wonderful gaelic words? It has always bothered me that I don't know how to 'say" the words that Jamie and the others are saying. -- tamdhu, 15:56:57 04/06/09 Mon


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[> [> [> [> Hiya, Tamdhu! And, weell, I can give it a whirl >>>> -- Elenna, 14:45:34 04/08/09 Wed

Its always a bit difficult to try to give phonetics that will "work" for everyone, and then some sounds in Gaelic just aren't the same in English! Then there are regional differences in pronunciations, too! And I am not a native speaker, nor fluent, by any means, but I will try to give a reasonable approximation, as best I can.

The Gaelic 'k' is further back in the throat than in English, almost approximating a 'g', and 'ch' is also that throaty sound I am sure everyone knows, as in 'loch'. : )

leasg - LES-ək

ballag buachair - BAL-ak BOO-ak-her

drammach - DRAM-mak (or sometimes DRAM-məch)

tulach ard - TOO-lach AARD (the final 'd' here is pronounced more with the tongue behind the upper front teeth rather than the hard English 'd' as in 'dog')

tannasg - TAN-nask

sguir - SKOOR

Actually, I just noticed that the first one also could be sealg 'hunt, hunting' (pron. SEL-ak). Though I don't recall it specifically in The Books, it may very well have been used too!

Anyway, I hope that lot is somewhat understandable, and what you were wanting.

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[> [> [> [> [> Nicely done Ellenna. I know how hard it can be to write something phonetically and I think you did a great job. Thanks for taking the time. -- Tamdhu, 18:31:22 04/08/09 Wed


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[> [> You're good Elenna!!!!!! -- LisaW, 19:21:08 03/24/09 Tue


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