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Date Posted: 21:51:32 01/21/08 Mon
Author: Ruthlass
Subject: In ABOSAA, Donner told C he should have realized she was a fellow TT because she was different from other women of that time - she wasn't afraid. She was always "different" and that difference was more noticed by women than men. Getting too close to other women was dangerous for C. Once nearly burned, twice shy.
In reply to: JessieR and CatherineM 's message, " Mini Reread Topic for January 2008: The Bonds (or lack thereof) of Sisterhood " on 22:40:12 01/15/08 Tue


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[> I don't understand how so many here can say they dislike the way Jenny treated Claire in Voyager! I mean, put yourself in Jenny's shoes. The brother she loves so dearly comes home from Culloden seriously wounded and without the woman he loves, and who professed to love him. Inside, I may go long lol -- KImL, 06:10:37 01/22/08 Tue

She is given no explanation for Claire's disappearance, other than the fact that she is "gone". Jenny brings Jamie back from death's doorstep, only to find that he isn't the same man he was, emotionally. Finally, in an attempt to try and make him "whole" again, she suggests the match to Loaghaire, which Jamie does agree to. She did not hold a gun to his head to make him do it, he went willingly enough. Then, when that marriage starts to fail, Jamie moves to Edinburgh, and seldom goes to Lallybroch, but at least Jenny still gets to see him, even if it is not often. Then, all of sudden, Claire is back, with no explanation of where she was, other than her telling Jenny "I thought he was dead." I mean, Jenny is not stupid. Claire has been gone twenty years, why did Jamie not try and find her if he still loved her? Afterall, she doesn't know about Claire's time travelling abilities, so it would only be natural for Jenny to think that if Jamie knew where Claire was, he would try and find her, and since he didn't, that he must not love her, or her him, anymore. Then, when Claire comes back, Jenny sends for Loaghaire for one reason and one reason only-to try and keep her dearly loved brother at least in Scotland. She "knows" that Jamie will leave Scotland now that he is with Claire, and she is afraid she will never see her brother again. I think what Jenny did was only natural and I think it was Claire who acted irrationally. I think that,in that day and time, I would have done the same thing as Jenny, if it were one of my brothers, especially if one of them had been through what Jamie had been through. I know that I seem to be in a minority here with my way of thinking, but, please remember that it is only my humble opinion! I think one of the reasons why women bond differently than men is that we are so much more unforgiving. We tend to hold onto injustices longer than men and we expect so much more from others than men seem to. And, we are also just more nurturing in general, so therefore, we don't like to see anyone we love get hurt.

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[> [> I think it was the way it was done. It was a bit underhanded and it did nothing but cause hurt to Claire, Loaghaire and her daughters. There were other ways she could have handled it, but it seemed like a sneaky way to do what she did. If she cared so much for her brother, he is once again with the woman he loves, then she sends for a woman he obviuosly does not love but is with out of obligation. Why not pull Jamie aside and say-Hey, what's the deal, what's going on? She sees her brother happy for the first time in years, then sends for Loaghaire and her daughters. Then they walk in on them in bed. Sorry, that;'s just not right. On one level, I can see why she did it, but I think it was not a nice thing to do. IMHO, it was not her place and she overstepped her bounds on this one. -- Rollaine, 06:43:17 01/22/08 Tue


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[> [> [> I think Jenny had a right to do what she did. Jamie brings claire home to bed her in front of her children who only knows loaghaire as their aunt. And from the looks of things jamie has not told claire the truth in all this time or is going to , so jenny , in her own way makes him own up. Its her house , her kids, and jamies lies. He was the one in the wrong. I also think she was very afraid of losing him. I'm on jennys side on this one. -- dirbeauchamp, 07:53:07 01/22/08 Tue


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[> [> [> [> Again, my only porblem is that is caused great hurt and embarrasment to Claire, Loaghaire and her children. While she may have been right, it is Jamie who should have born the brunt-not the women. I'm no fan of Loaghare, but I felt kind of bad for her. What a thing to see. I think it caused hurt to the wrong people-that's my main issue with what she did. Here again its that sisterhood thing :-). Jamie caused the deception y lying, but who does Jenny actually go after-Claire, and indirectly Loaghaire and her daughters. I think it was obvious Claire did not know about Loaghaire and vice-versa. Jenny was right-Jamie should have been honest-but I still disagree with her actions. -- Rollaine, 08:14:26 01/22/08 Tue


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