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Date Posted: 10:37:54 08/26/06 Sat
Author: pam
Subject: E

Now having seen the interview I think that he was just saying he was not the lead in this show s he was in Jag. Who knows how the interview was edited. Acting is a business and to stay on top you have to promote yourself. I think the way DB treated him in the end made him realize this and he is out to make a living for his family. I didn't hear about any of his co-star backing him because their careers are important to them. CB was willing to go on as top billing on Jag if the was another season. That is not a critizism but a statement of fact.

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[> So what you are saying is that CB should have offered to quit the show in support of DJE? Ask Chuch Carrington and Kerri Turner how supportive DJE was to their making a living for their families when he demanded a big salary increase. -- Jaggie, 13:35:34 08/26/06 Sat

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[> [> Don't forget Randy Vasquez in that group...they all had their parts slashed or eliminated due to the salary bump in S8..... -- Gunny Forever!, 13:43:44 08/26/06 Sat

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[> [> [> Actually, RV got a role on First Monday (another DPB show). Unfortunately, the show didn't last too long. In the meantime, Coates was brought into JAG to take his place. So I imagine that is what happened to his job on JAG. -- Ann, 00:18:12 08/27/06 Sun

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[> [> [> [> No, Actually it's not Ann. He was let go of Jag well before he got the job on First Monday. His role was slashed because of dje's contract. -- Kathy, 10:58:59 08/28/06 Mon

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[> [> I don't think that's what pam was saying. Yes, it's a business, and you can be supportive and cooperative at work, but in the end, you have to put yourself first. Why should CB have "offered to quit"? I'm sure no one, least of all DJE, would expect that. The facts are, eight years as a lead in a well-rated TV show means money. People, and production companies, have to make choices. What most of us object to isn't the non-rehiring, but the manner in which it was done. -- Deemus, 13:47:07 08/26/06 Sat

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[> [> [> I think that's what is the toughest for the fans to understand....that it is a business...a very nasty & tough business, but a business where the almighty dollar rules. That's why comments about DB being anti-DJE humor me, as an actor of course they have the right to ask for pay increases, but that doesn't mean that the employers can afford those increases...like you said Deemus you have to make choices, & we as fans think "you should pay them whatever they want" in reality its a business with a bottom line & sometimes you just can't do it. I know I wouldn't survive in Hollywood LOL! -- Jennifer, 14:10:53 08/26/06 Sat

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[> [> [> DB didn't do anything to david. The contract negotiations before this one were hell on wheels from reports and what davids demands were. It was also stated by david that whether he returned or not would be what the money people had to say (directly from dje's mouth) He wanted $1 mill per eps and that was impossible especially for how expensive it was to make the show itself. DB said david knew way back at the beginning of season 10 that he wouldn't be signed and he played it up. (inside) -- afan, 15:26:39 08/26/06 Sat

I have no sympathy for him, like others have said it's a business, but he doesn't need to make ego comments like that to build himself up, acutually it just makes him look bad. I won't comment any further because I've expressed my views.

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[> [> [> [> DPB's own comments about the negotiations were insulting. Instead of simply saying, "It's been a great ten years, but the money is too much," he bragged that he just didn't get back in touch with the agent, and eventually "got the picture." There were similar remarks, and spin, all from DPB. How un-classy. However, that's water over the dam now, and I think we've beaten this topic to death. -- Deemus, 16:12:14 08/26/06 Sat

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[> [> [> [> [> Yet it still comes back to fans blaming it all on DB. DJE made some rather snide remarks about the producers after he got a big pay increase and they got rid of his wife's role. Who was unclassy then? -- Jaggie, 16:25:46 08/26/06 Sat

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[> [> [> [> [> [> I agree with Deemus on the fact that DB has done some unclassy things & made some unclassy statements.....I think here you had to alpha males (or battering rams) & neither one was going to give an inch....It would've been so easy to publically say "its a matter of money.." by both DB & DJE...DJE did want Friends type money, which unfortunately a small market show like JAG just couldn't afford. KT, CC & RV had already had their roles diminshed/eliminated & JAG using all the props they did was a very expensive show to put on the air. We as fans again may not like, but it is a business. -- Jennifer, 17:44:41 08/26/06 Sat

I think both parties at one point or the other during the contract talks acted "less than stellar" & both should be held to the same standard. It just wasn't one person's fault or the other's...it was a bunch of things which I'm thankful we don't know 95% of what actually happened.

DB as the creator is going to take the brunt of the fans' wrath & rage if that makes sense....I'm sure there is so much more too it, and probably somethings that shouldn't and won't ever be public, and should stay just that way, private....

Hollywood is a nasty, nasty business.....

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> I would think that JAG could have scrapped up enough money to keep its secondary actors employeed if they were inclined to do so. I for one wasn't tuning in to see KT, CC or RV. I was watching to see the stars DJE and CB. -- Nokia, 00:26:03 09/03/06 Sun

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> No they couldn't Nokia. They had a budget to work with just like any business does. Jag wasn't garnering the 18-49 bracket and wasn't getting the advertising dollars to stay afloat. DJE wanted "Friends" type money from a show that wasn't earning "Friends" type dollars. In trying to meet his demands a few years ago under the awful and strenuous contract negotiations they gave him $300,000.00 per episode and had to cut the budget and therefore cut out and cut back the others roles. And whether you want to acknowledge it or not, all the other cast members contributed to the show as well. -- Kathy, 09:40:19 09/05/06 Tue

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[> [> I did read what you are saying in Pam's post. She made a clearly neutral statement. -- Xena, 18:20:39 08/26/06 Sat

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[> [> [> That would be "I did not read" -- Xena, 18:21:44 08/26/06 Sat

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[> Having now seen the E segment I do not think DJE was intentionally being arrogant. In the E segment DJE goes on to say it was that (the burden) and the character was such a rich character. That to me sort of qualifies his statement to mean that the large amount of onscreen time that his character required was the burden. Timewise his character had a major part on the show and I think this is the burden he was referring to, not himself personally but the character of Harm. -- Jubellant, 18:20:59 08/26/06 Sat

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[> [> That makes a lot of sense. -- Meg, 02:20:08 08/28/06 Mon

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[> [> [> My workplace has a payroll budet. So when I negotiate a raise for myself I should not go for the largest raise I can get so that money will be left over for my coworkers? I should tell my family that doing the best I can to provide for them is not an option? -- Nokia, 00:22:57 09/03/06 Sun

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[> [> [> [> Negotiating a raise is one thing but asking a ridiculous amount of $ per week is another. If you can't make it on $300,000 per ep. for 23 shows for the past 2 yrs plus they $200,000 per epy he was making before that times 23-25 over 8 yrs, I would say you've got issues, & maybe he should sell one of his 3 homes instead of getting gready. While we all like Jag, it wasn't making the money & getting the ad dollars it needed, plus it was expensive to make. Sometimes stars get a fat head & think they are worth more than they are instead of staying grounded & appreciate they are working. -- Kathy, 09:58:55 09/05/06 Tue

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[> Raise your hand if you were standing there when the negotiations went down between DJE and DPB. Anyone? No? Then you don't really know what went down regardless of what you've been told by 2nd, 3rd, 4th.....hand accounts. -- Theresa, 21:00:03 09/12/06 Tue

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[> [> Its a good point Theresa, which is why to me its not fair to place all the blame on DB for what transpired between him & DJE. There are a lot of places out there that have hammered DB & continue to do so to this day, & my point is there's so much more that happened, none of us knows the whole truth nor will we ever. It was them both, not just one or the other...like I've stated before, we as fans may not like it, but Hollywood is a business & it all boils down to money. -- Jennifer, 17:06:39 09/13/06 Wed

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