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Subject: 1. ??????? characters in your Arabic file

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Date Posted: 16:47:45 07/08/04 Thu
In reply to: Mahmud Kashgari 's message, "Re: 2. Writing in Arabic in VTrain 4.5" on 05:56:07 07/05/04 Mon

>Let me go back to the basics. I have Windows XP SP2
>with Arabic IME as my working environment. I created a
>deck with the fronts for English, having
>Arial(Western) and English keyboard as default, and
>with the backs for Arabic, having Arial(Arabic) and
>Arabic keyboard as default. The Arial is Windows' own
>Arial, nothing fancy. I entered a few flashcards,
>saved the deck, opened it again. Arabic side has all
>nice Arabic characters. But when I try to import the
>cards as a text file, I get all question marks for
>Arabic characters. As far as I see, I have done
>nothing Unicode, so how did it creep in?

This happens because Windows 2k / XP forces applications to save data using the Arabic section of Unicode. If an application is not Unicode-enabled but is 'legacy' (ANSI-based) software, ??????? characters appear instead of non-Western characters when you reload the file.

VTrain 4.5 is not Unicode-enabled, since we wanted to keep it working with Windows 95 / 98 / ME users. VTrain 5.0 will be released in two flavors: Unicode-enabled (for Win 2k / XP) and not Unicode-enabled for older operation systems.

>Being able to import to a standard format, such as a
>text file is a must for me, for maximum compatibility
>and backup issues. But, since WindowsXP apparently
>handles so many things in Unicode, it seems to me that
>it would not be possible to export cards with Arabic
>characters as a text file without specifying an
>encoding scheme, not necessarily Unicode, but still an
>encoding.

VTrain 5.0 will incorporate a rich-text import facility which will be compatible with Unicode. For information about when it is possible for the user to specify an encoding scheme, see the next message in this thread.

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2. Specifying an encoding when saving a file Authors 17:56:23 07/08/04 Thu

Re: 2. Specifying an encoding when saving a file Mahmud Kashgari 00:17:48 07/10/04 Sat

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>>Let me go back to the basics. I have Windows XP SP2 >>with Arabic IME as my working environment. I created a >>deck with the fronts for English, having >>Arial(Western) and English keyboard as default, and >>with the backs for Arabic, having Arial(Arabic) and >>Arabic keyboard as default. The Arial is Windows' own >>Arial, nothing fancy. I entered a few flashcards, >>saved the deck, opened it again. Arabic side has all >>nice Arabic characters. But when I try to import the >>cards as a text file, I get all question marks for >>Arabic characters. As far as I see, I have done >>nothing Unicode, so how did it creep in? > >This happens because Windows 2k / XP forces >applications to save data using the Arabic section of >Unicode. If an application is not Unicode-enabled but >is 'legacy' (ANSI-based) software, ??????? characters >appear instead of non-Western characters when you >reload the file. > >VTrain 4.5 is not Unicode-enabled, since we wanted to >keep it working with Windows 95 / 98 / ME users. >VTrain 5.0 will be released in two flavors: >Unicode-enabled (for Win 2k / XP) and not >Unicode-enabled for older operation systems. > > >>Being able to import to a standard format, such as a >>text file is a must for me, for maximum compatibility >>and backup issues. But, since WindowsXP apparently >>handles so many things in Unicode, it seems to me that >>it would not be possible to export cards with Arabic >>characters as a text file without specifying an >>encoding scheme, not necessarily Unicode, but still an >>encoding. > >VTrain 5.0 will incorporate a rich-text import >facility which will be compatible with Unicode. >For information about when it is possible for the user >to specify an encoding scheme, see the next message in >this thread.

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