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Date Posted: Thu, May 21 2009, 0:55:12
Author: Paddy Holroyde (Hopegul Holroyde)
Subject: Hale family

My married name is Paddy (Patricia) Holroyde, having married Husband Ray (Yorkshire man) 13 years ago, we now live in Hindhead, Surrey.

Between 1958 and 1979, I was married to Ivor Hale (born in Llanhilleth - now resident in Woking, Surrey).

I am trying to gain information on the family of Mr Ivor Hale, whom we believe lived and raised his family in Cwmtillery, This is for our family archive - and also for a 'this is your life' type of book, which I'm creating for my daughter Beverley's 50th Birthday, on 13th June '09.

Working backward, from present times, here is what we know.

Fact: Ivor William Hale (my former Husband & Beverley's Father) - born Llanhilleth 26th December 1936.
His Mother: Phyllis May Hale (nee Williams) native of Llanhilleth and daughter of Edith Williams.
His Father: Royal Marine Ivor Hale - born Cwmtillery (?) drowned at sea, went down on 'HMS Glorious' on 6th June 1940, off Narvik.

Fact: Royal Marine Ivor Hale, was the son of Mr Ivor Hale

Our understanding is that Ivor Hale (No 1) lived with his wife and (21?) children in Cwmtillery.

Royal Marine Ivor Hale (Ivor No 2) was a career sailor. He was posted to many Royal Marine barracks in the UK and was certainly in Malta & the Med: with HMS Glorious before WW II. He had 3 children - Marina Hale Born 1935 / Ivor Hale born 1937 / Doris Hale born 1938. His final posting was from RM Plymouth, and his name is on the Plymouth cenotaph.

In the summer of 1956 I first visited Llanhilleth with my fiance Ivor (No 3) and, during that visit, I wanted us to travel up the valley to Cwm, to call upon his Grandfather Ivor Hale (No 1), I believe my Mother In Law Phyllis kept in touch with someone from Cwmtillery, for she knew that her Father In Law Ivor (No 1) was still alive then, but of a great age. Sadly, Ivor (No 3) decided against a visit, and explained to me that, having lost his own Father (Ivor No 2) at the age of 4, there was little memory of his Dad and, being unsure of his own paternal roots, felt it unwise to impose upon a family who would have little recollection of him.

I do remember us going (toward Crumlin ?) to visit an elderly lady, who was an elder sister of Ivor Hale (No 2) and her name was 'Auntie Anne' - living with her own daughter, in what I can remember as a lovely old small farmhouse in countryside.

Ivor (No 3) is 72 years of age now, and his memory is getting sketchy. My former Mother In Law Phyllis (2nd marriage to Leslie Steadman) has long since passed on and much has been lost over time. If anyone has a connection with the Hale family of Cwmtillery, it will be good to hear from you. Thank you for listening to a disjointed family tale and for your time.

Yours sincerely

Paddy Holroyde (Mrs)
20/5/2009


Ps - you may be interested to hear that there is an Ivor Hale (No 4), for I was fortunate enough to have a Son, and carried on the family tradition. But Ivor (4) simply has two daughters, so perhaps the old name combination may be laid to rest here.

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