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Date Posted: 17:27:03 03/07/07 Wed
Author: Lina Lina
Subject: More Black Dagger Brotherhood revelations from J.R.Ward...


THE SCRIBE VIRGIN upholds two principles: free will and balance (no gift should be given without sacrifice). However, SHE was GRANTED the single act of creation wihout a sarifice in return, which has created an unbalance in the vampire race... We are/will witness the effects of this unbalance as the race is shifting...

WRATH's unwillingness to assend as king for 300 or so years, caused the race to be stuck in their old ways/customs/rituals.... (hence the London-ton-like glymera???)... things are going to change quite a bit to catch up with the times...

PAYNE, who will be the first female to be inducted into the brotherhood (and will be called a BROTHER!!!) is apparently someone we've already met... J.R. said she soooooo wished she could tell us who she is, but of course, she couldn't...

TOHR - will return soon, in one of the upcoming books. She will not wait til Tohr's book to bring him back. But he will come back quite messed up and in a dark-dark-dark place...

PHURY's external good looks and polished appearance are a mask for seriously dark things going on inside of him... there's more to the drugs... He's become so co-dependent, and focused on living his life for Zsadist, he's seriously in a weird place right now trying to figure out who? what? why? where? next.... His book is #6, right after V's...

In regards to the not-so-subtle homoerotic/bi-sexual tendencies noted in the books (esp. the latest), while it doesn't sound like any of the brothers will be hooking up with someone of the same gender, J.R. said that she's not opposed to the what the voices tell her... She believes that basically any love is good love, with the exception of maybe sheep... she won't go there... *LMAO* (those were her words! I swear!) Although... you never know about Vishous...

We will learn about the fate of the CHOSEN... soon!

After being alone for so long the Brothers are all of a sudden all hooking up one after another... J.R. said "DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT'S A COINCIDENCE?"

VISHOUS's book is even fatter than all the ones that came before it, and I quote J.R. "Which is probably a point of pride for him, because well, let's face it... Size matters!" She also said his is the hardest book she had to write/plot/etc... And you know how she dedicates each book to the brother it's about? J.R. said she was very tempted to just flip V the bird instead of words *LMAO*

If I remember correctly, in addition to the Brothers and Butch, the remaining 3 of the originally planned 10 books will cover Rhev, John Matthew and Payne.

Vishous's female is going to be a seriously kick-a$$ girl (which means I'm going to love her *EG*)... J.R.'s words were "She'll knock you into tomorrow..."


OK... that's all I can think of for now... if I remember anything else, I'll come back and add on...

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[> Awesome bits,Lina,thank you!!! More anxious than ever to meet Payne,and Jane now,too,since she will also be kick-a$$!! I am not,however,anxious to read anymore of the homoerotic stuff,LOL.She crossed my personal comfort line towards the end of LR,and I will be disappointed if she goes further,even.Dangit,we need our discussion NOW!!! *G* -- Boadicea, 17:50:54 03/07/07 Wed


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[> Bring on the homo-eroticsm, LMAO! I think it's hot! Now all we need is a 3way! Thanks for all of the tidbits. I love how well she has everything planned out and her willingness to give spoilers, LOL. -- Leiha, 18:16:04 03/07/07 Wed


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[> The Butch-V thing is like this (not just my theory, backed up by JRW on her board) - V was raised in an incredibly brutal manner and has never had any concept of emotional love or intimacy. The BDB bond is not based on that. Along comes Butch, and there's a powerful emotional connection which V doesn't understand and the lines get blurred. I suck at expressing this, but the point is, without Butch providing the first dent in V's armor, there could be no Jane. I guess he would not even 'see' her (her being human) or more likely destroy her. -- Beth, 22:45:18 03/07/07 Wed


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[> [> Wow..that was pretty freaking intense. I don't mind thw whole homo erotic thing, since it didnt' seem like V was sexually attracted to Butch, just that he wanted to feel through Butch. That too me was HOT HOT HOT -- Nally, 08:45:05 03/08/07 Thu


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[> [> [> I got 3/4 of the way through and thought, nope, no sexual attraction there...and then there was the transition scene, going straight on through to the initiation scene (trying not to be TOO detailed and spoilery)...WOW. 'A path that would not be walked. Ever.' So sad for V. And I know that he's going to find his own HEA, but to me Butch is his soul mate and his first love. -- Beth, 09:40:23 03/17/07 Sat


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[> [> I'm with you Nally, not exactly homoerotic, I think that Butch & V were AFRAID that that was what was going on, but I think that they sincerely love each other as true brothers and having never dealt with such strong emotion from family, it freaked them out. -- Susie Susie, 13:34:12 03/13/07 Tue


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[> Do you think that Payne is Xhex? And do you think the pronouncement is Sex or Zex or something else. It drives me NUTS reading a book and not too sure how a name is pronounced!!! I have no idea about the coincidence think JR mentioned. -- Susie Susie, 13:37:09 03/13/07 Tue


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[> [> Payne and Xhex have two different orums on JRW's website (neither yet active) so I assume they're not the same person. But I'm wondering if she could possibly be either Phury or JM's mate. -- Beth, 00:11:17 03/15/07 Thu


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[> [> [> I haven't seen that. I was going on the fact that we have "met" her already. Man, I LOVE these books, they're spoiling me for others. -- Susie Susie, 12:48:28 03/15/07 Thu


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[> OMG, I'm so excited. I'm bouncing in my chair right now. WOO HOO!!!!! This series is just getting better and better!! -- Ronlyn, 16:24:06 03/13/07 Tue


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[> I just finished the book yesterday and it was great. I am with Susie I am not sure how to pronounce her name. I kept calling her Zex only because of Xena Warrior Princess LOL. As far as Butch and V and their relationship, I did not see that as a homoerotic nature. They are two parts that make a whole. I think they just sensed it without knowing what that bond was. -- CherDWag, 06:36:14 03/14/07 Wed


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[> Payne and Xhex are not the same person... oh and I have to share this... I picture Xhex as China, the WWF wrestler! *LMAO* -- Lina, 18:43:10 03/18/07 Sun


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[> [> Now that makes me laugh because I just saw China on Surreal Life Fame Games the other day! -- CherDWag, 17:57:16 03/19/07 Mon


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