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Date Posted: 22:52:17 07/05/05 Tue
Author: Ray
Subject: Outlander

Hi everyone,

I know Outlander has probably been done to death, but I'm hoping you all won't mind revisiting it a bit. The scene towards the end, where Claire saves Jamie from his torture injuries by pretending to be Randall (sort of) - it took me years to understand it and it really only happened in the last few months since I started doing trauma therapy myself (I'm training as a psychologist). Anyway, I just wondered if others had the same difficulty with it - why it worked, why Claire decided to do it, etc. I know Diana Gabaldon describes her writing process as "seeing" what happens and then trying to capture that, which may explain why there was so much ambiguity there.
Silly logistical question too - I have been looking through the archive stuff and there were a couple of discussions I wouldn't have minded posting on - is that possible after the fact, or do you just have to catch the thread while it's happening?

Thanks everyone!

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[> I know I had a hard time reading about that whole incident. I don't doubt that there was a psycological reason for having Claire "be" Randall, but it certainly turned my stomach a little...Ok, it turned it a lot. And to answer your question, yes, you would need to respond to the posts as they are happening. I mean, you can, but likely no one would see your responses if it's very far down the board. -- BobbiBobbi, 06:39:01 07/08/05 Fri


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[> The ENTIRE "interlude" with Randall,and Jamie's subsequent behavior,pi$$ed me off,it felt like a slap in the face to me,because I thought VERY highly of Jamie by then,admired him,etc.It was hard to read,but the rest of the book & others in the series were so great,I chose to ignore the "ewww" factor,and now Outlander & Dragonfly are my faves in the series,to date.I think Claire was extremely ballsy to do it,though.Like she felt that only by bringing him to that lowest point in his life,the height of shame ,humilation,etc.,would he face it & get past it. -- Boadicea, 17:00:15 07/08/05 Fri


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[> [> continuing... everything that Jamie has been through(Ray,have you read all the other books in the Outlander series?) has made him who he is.I admire him that much more for the way he has dealt with everything life has thrown at him.I have trouble putting my feelings for Jamie Fraser into a neat little box(Just ask Vic,LOL ) but he is one of my VERY favorite heroes. -- Bo again, 17:06:21 07/08/05 Fri


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[> Hey Bo, yes I've read them all, can't wait for the new one. My fave is Dragonfly in Amber, but I think that's because I love 18th century French history. Anyway, glad to see it wasn't just me. And I love Jamie too, although he's starting to be inhuman with all that he's endured (I mean, no-one can deal with all that and be okay!). -- Rae (aka Ray), 18:09:22 07/14/05 Thu


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