| Subject: What's up with the market? |
Author: curious... [Edit]
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Date Posted: Sunday, July 26, 03:32:24pm
Has anyone else noticed that the OTR market has dropped off significantly in the past 3-4 months? I've noticed that very few dresses appear to be selling until the seller has dropped the price to waaay below what the dress is worth.
Is it a result of people not thinking used dresses are worth anything anymore, fast changing styles, the economy, or...? I love this job, but it seems like the market is evaporating and I may not have a choice in whether or not I continue.
I've had less requests for custom dresses too, but I think that is an economy thing. Those who were buying mid-priced dresses are now either jobless, or cutting back in fear of becoming jobless, and there just aren't as many dancers out there.
I never thought I'd be nostalgic about "the good old days", but I do miss slower changing dress fashions (even the ones I didn't like very much) and a better (for the dm's!) supply-demand ratio.
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- I usually buy OTR's but they seem to be made for smaller girls lately. Also, too many bubbles being made (In My Opinion) & that style doesn't work for everyone. Also, $1500- $1600 for an OTR vs. $1800-$2000 for an Elevation. (NT) -- Just the facts, ma'am, Sunday, July 26, 05:40:26pm
- I now seem to be working with as many moms as professional dressmakers. Some have made a few dresses for their daughters, but there are so many who are taking the plunge for the first time because they want to/must keep costs down. -- AnnD/ Taoknitter, Sunday, July 26, 05:43:01pm
- I think the BN dresses still do look better on stage, in general, than small-time dressmakers' dresses. Shoot me down for saying so, but it seems to me they do still have that special extra edge, and that's what people will pay the extra for. (more inside) -- Small OTR dressmaker with no ambitions to be a BN!, Sunday, July 26, 06:06:36pm
- Not going to shoot you down, but I do disagree that the bn dressmakers have an edge. These days, unless it is a badly made dress by a newbie, you cannot tell who made a dress anymore. I think sometimes the bns get credit for dresses made by talented small dressmakers. Plenty of good artists out there. (NT) -- another small dm, Sunday, July 26, 06:16:28pm
- I disagree - I have yet to see a dress made by a Smaller Name dressmaker which can truly be mistaken for a Gavin (NT) -- Though I do agree there are plenty of other good dressmakers!, Sunday, July 26, 08:21:25pm
- To me the advantage of the smaller dressmakers is that they do not look like they came "off the line" at one of the big name shops. If you look at the Elevation website, you see that you are getting a dress that is made from one of several templates. They start to look the same. I'm not convinced Gavin is any different. (NT) -- Don't Like the Mass Produced Look, Monday, July 27, 12:02:41am
- The ladies in Queensland Australia are producing excellent dresses that are often mistaken for Gavins because of their shape, colour and design. (NT) -- Is it a compliment to be seen as a BN copy though? Double edged sword, Monday, July 27, 01:21:30am
- Are there any photos of these online? (NT) -- .., Monday, July 27, 05:39:41am
- I've noticed those dresses, and think they're absolutely beautiful! (NT) -- love your dd dress, Monday, July 27, 01:28:31pm
- Which DMs are in Queensland? (NT) -- Please share, Tuesday, July 28, 08:49:28pm
- I know I wouldn't want to be! (NT) -- Ugh...., Monday, July 27, 07:50:37am
- How would you know? You would just think, "Oh, look, another gorgeous Gavin." Or do you check all the linings for a tag? (NT) -- Sheesh, Tuesday, July 28, 08:34:41am
- We had 3 of our top champs compete in the same age group at NAN in brand-new Gavins. All had been in the top 15 before. One finished top 10, one recalled, and one didn't recall. Our highest placing dancer (different group) wore a used Michelle Lewis. (NT) -- It isn't the BN dress. Buy what you can afford., Tuesday, July 28, 10:06:56am
- I have two problems with the BN concept.... -- Small Part Time DM, Monday, July 27, 09:31:38am
- I agree 100% with your comments. If TC's want to promote ID they should promote -- local, less expensive dressmakers so others can participate.., Monday, July 27, 10:46:30am
- I think going to more simple but highly contrasting designs would be a good thing. A dress can be eye catching without couture priced fabrics. We got a simple Gavin bubble dress for DD this year, priced at $1800 (in canadian dollars),velvet bodice and sleeves, great contrasting 'bubbles' and embroidery, perfect fit. We 'stoned' it ourselves, not over the top. It stood out from many many dresses that were complicated designs, covered in laces and sequins and so on. Maybe it's time for a change? (NT) -- none, Monday, July 27, 01:04:47pm
- I totally agree with you OP. I cannot understand the market right now. I have customers (including myself for my daughter's old dress) that are selling my used dress for more than I can get for a brand new one. That I just can't understand. My only thought is that people want a dress that has been tested on stage. I just don't get it. (NT) -- .., Monday, July 27, 01:00:11pm
- As a buyer, I have seen some absolutely fabulous and well-made OTR's by smaller-name dressmakers. Unfortunately, they are all too small for my dd-- (NT) -- size issue, Monday, July 27, 02:19:37pm
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