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Subject: At the Nationals, I have some friends telling me they saw new dresses with skirts like "ice skating skirts". Does anyone know if there are pictures of these dresses anywhere??
Author: ???? [Edit]	Date Posted: Monday, July 13, 09:11:34pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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did she eloborate on what she meant? flared skirts? pleated skirts?details please! have you looked at the photos from NANs to see if you could find them? (NT) -- lots of photos to view, Monday, July 13, 09:55:57pm I think she meant the same simple soft skirts in the post below... (NT) -- bg, Tuesday, July 14, 09:28:29am I didn't go to NANs but I did see some lovely dressses at Worlds that fit this description. They were made by Emerald Key. Dropped waist, with soft flowy skirt. Beaded appliques were used in lieu of embroidery. (NT) -- simply beautiful dresses, Tuesday, July 14, 09:52:34am I'm tired of embroidery. Like the beaded applique look. (NT) -- nice, Tuesday, July 14, 06:01:10pm GD making them...Look @ the u10 champ on the podium... The dress was beautiful No embroidery full of crystals on the bodice dropped waist simple skirt with crystals scattered about (NT) -- Dancing MUM, Tuesday, July 14, 09:51:18pm Look@ michelle lewis web page under new designs...There is one on the first page...Green velvet white skirt (NT) -- mom, Tuesday, July 14, 09:54:35pm Emerald key has about 49 dreses on their website. Some are really pretty but none small enough for my daughter (NT) -- kris, Wednesday, July 22, 08:56:54pm

Subject: can anyone tell me on the siopa rince soft skirt dresses what sort of petticoat is underneath . Do you think it is a ballet tutu ?I would like to try to make one of these for my dd but was wondering if I just do a gathered skirt how do I get it to stick out at sides
Author: many thanksx [Edit]	Date Posted: Monday, July 13, 05:02:30am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I thought I read on this board to use stabilizer toward the bottom of the dress to make it stick out but not to sew it into the seam. That way it does not restrict movement. Can anyone out there say if this is correct and provide additional info? (NT) -- -, Monday, July 13, 09:46:59am No expert but I think you will have to have side pleats (as deep as needed) to allow for movement. We have a puffball for instance with pretty deep sidepleats in the stiff base. (NT) -- none, Monday, July 13, 12:23:17pm Which style are you refering too? Bubble skirts? Actual soft skirts (does SR do those?)? Pictures? (NT) -- .., Monday, July 13, 01:52:26pm Not sure about SR but dd Gavin soft skirt look is actually the 3 ruffels on a hard shell that has very deep side pleats which make the dress go flat in a dress bag etc, it then sort of pops out to the rounded shape when dancer wears it. DD says its the comfiest lightest dress yet (NT) -- me, Monday, July 13, 05:46:47pm Does the hard shell continue into the pleats or is it only sewn onto the front and back panels? (NT) -- Hmm, Monday, July 13, 10:42:05pm Its all the way around just like a reg lining into the pleats etc (NT) -- above, Tuesday, July 14, 10:23:56am Hi the skirts I am refering to are actual soft skirts( links to pics inside) -- hope these work.x, Tuesday, July 14, 07:34:39am That looks like a simple skirt with perhaps stiff netting or a not too puffed tutu for body. (NT) -- none, Tuesday, July 14, 08:52:09am in the last pic you can see a tutu (I think) coming down a bit in the front...it is white like the skirt so it is hard to tell---but that is what it looks like to me--I've made a couple simple soft skirts dresses and l used a tutu (NT) -- bg, Tuesday, July 14, 09:27:15am thank you for all the replies I will have a go with the tutu underneath (NT) -- fingers crossed it works ha! x, Tuesday, July 14, 01:28:07pm

Subject: What style dress do you think is best for a dancer who is naturally long-wasted? I think the super-low waisted styles will make her look out of proportion?
Author: Dress Shopper [Edit]	Date Posted: Monday, July 13, 01:04:54am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Absolutely - it will make her legs appear even shorter, giving her the appearance of a Daschund (All body, no legs) Not particularly effective! (NT) -- x, Monday, July 13, 08:25:05am Not 100% sure. I'd say it would depend on the proportion of skirt to bodice. The less skirt, the better. OP, you can probably have your daughter try one on at a feis to give you an idea. (NT) -- best to try on in person, Monday, July 13, 08:54:35am To get the "look" you'll want the skirt to be around 1/3 (or a little less) the total length of the dress from the shoulder. She could have a 3"-6" dropped waist, and as long as the waist isn't dropped below the widest part of her hips and the skirt is in the 1/3 range, it will look good. (NT) -- =), Monday, July 13, 01:54:52pm Color has an impact on elongating a persons body. My DD who is long and lean tried on a couple of dresses in TN. I took pictures of her in the dress to show the teacher. I still have the pictures and looking back at them, the pictures of her in the black bodice with a contrasting color for the skirt and arms really looked awesome on her. Tried on the same style dress with dark red bodice and silver skirt and arms and it just made her look stalking.. (NT) -- color makes an impact., Monday, July 13, 08:05:01pm ha... she's not stalking!! made her look stauky.. (sp??) sorry. (NT) -- stalky??, Monday, July 13, 08:06:30pm stocky (NT) -- :), Monday, July 13, 10:09:40pm LOL... I was picturing a creepy Goth dress (NT) -- ....will the Twilight trend hit ID any day now?, Sunday, July 19, 08:43:28pm

Subject: Is it harder for smaller dressmakers to do the detailed embroidery that is on some of the current dresses. Are high end machines needed for that kind of embroidery?
Author: Dress Shopper [Edit]	Date Posted: Sunday, July 12, 10:13:22pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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There are limits to each embroidery machine. Hoop size is my biggest limitation with a small scale embroidery machine. Also the degitizing learning curve can be tough. Each one gets better. (NT) -- my experience, Monday, July 13, 12:10:52am Every small dressmaker has a different embroidery setup and abilities. Personally, I free-hand simplier things (most knotwork) and use my embroidery machine for intricate designs (lots of changes in width for example). For me, its effecient and effective and I get the same look as you get with a big machine. (NT) -- the only downside is the lack of perfect consistency, Monday, July 13, 01:08:39am

Subject: Does anyone have a source for the tiny pleated shiney fabric Gavin used on many of the NANs dresses this year?
Author: Thank you [Edit]	Date Posted: Sunday, July 12, 03:36:17pm Distinct Fabrics calls it "plice," but I haven't found any other vendors using that name. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I don't know what its called (I call if accordian pleating), but I've seen a few colors at Joann fabrics (orange, yellow, and cream I think), and at Gail K in Atlanta (they had some fun colors & metallics). You might call them for samples, they're very helpful. (NT) -- I'd love to see the websites you've found too!, Monday, July 13, 01:12:27am Yes, called plice or plisse (french). Some drycleaning services provide this kind of pleating. You can send them your fabric to have it pleated. (NT) -- ask drycleaners, Monday, July 13, 01:37:15pm That's the one I didn't expect! Thank you all (NT) -- OP, Monday, July 13, 08:30:59pm Have been studying the NANs photos and saw a few of those dresses-but from a distance-the fabric does not really seem to be pleated-but textured,or ribbed-have been looking all day trying to find -- it online, Monday, July 13, 09:57:49pm Friend got one of these dresses and wore It to dance in@ Nationals and the skirt snagged after one wear...Must have got caught on the velcro....Paid $2500 for the dress...Material seems delicate (NT) -- mummy, Tuesday, July 14, 09:59:25pm Thank you for the warning (NT) -- OP, Wednesday, July 15, 05:58:44pm Michelle Lewis has a great photo on her website showing this fabric used in a skirt-you can see the texture detail of the fabric-does anyone know what it (NT) -- is exactly?, Thursday, July 16, 02:34:25pm

Subject: Shipping
Author: Oldtimer DM [Edit]	Date Posted: Sunday, July 12, 02:25:00pm I have never shipped a dress outside of North America and would like to know the best way to ship to Ireland. Thank you!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Are the shops open on Sunday in the Garment District in Los Angeles?
Author: Gotta shop! [Edit]	Date Posted: Thursday, July 09, 08:29:04pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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The biggest one, Michael Levine, is open (at least it was the last time), and lots of the small ones. I actually prefer to go on Sunday due to smaller crowds. Some of the shops are closed on Saturday for the Jewish Sabbath, and those are usually open on Sunday. (NT) -- Beth G., Thursday, July 09, 09:52:46pm P.S.: please call them before you take my word for it! I would hate to be responsible for you taking all that time and being disappointed. (NT) -- BG, Thursday, July 09, 09:55:15pm Yes they are, hours might be something like 11-4, shorter days than Sat. (NT) -- none, Sunday, July 12, 11:09:23am

Subject: Can anyone recommend an online outlet for embroidered bodice appliques, either rhinestone, pearl, sequin or embroiery?
Author: Denver mum. [Edit]	Date Posted: Thursday, July 09, 01:06:48pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I got a pearl one from Glory's House ebay shop. You can also try MJ Trim and Glitzonline.com (NT) -- R, Friday, July 10, 03:51:00am Theatre House also has a few of these appliques (NT) -- Happy shopping, Friday, July 10, 10:35:43am laceheaven.com also has some. (NT) -- had good luck with them, Friday, July 10, 04:02:12pm Who is selling the new metallic pieces that are going on the headbands? I know I saw a vendor making them at NAN's and I think it was New York. Does anyone have a supplier for these? (NT) -- Another mom, Sunday, July 12, 09:09:15pm I haven't seen headbands with metallic pieces - now curious to know what they are. Does anyone have pictures? (NT) -- R, Monday, July 13, 04:55:41am It looks like a filagree (sp?) bracelet with crystals. There are links to hold the sections together. I think glued on a fabric covered headband. (NT) -- another mom, Monday, July 13, 10:54:49pm

Subject: Any ideas how I might construct a petticoat...not unlike Emerald Keys design. I don't want the "frilly" one...Just a tiered stiff petticoat.
Author: Appreciate your recommendation. [Edit]	Date Posted: Thursday, July 09, 01:05:01pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Anyone have information/recommendations on Irish Dance Creations?
Author: curious [Edit]	Date Posted: Thursday, July 09, 10:30:13am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Looks as they are relatively new to the business (NT) -- x, Monday, July 13, 08:27:22am

Subject: For those who've used stretch fabric for the bodice, can I bug you with questions?
Author: Thanks [Edit]	Date Posted: Thursday, July 09, 09:38:07am Did you interface the center section with non-stretch stuff to keep the embroidery smooth? Did you use a stretch lining fabric (athletic mesh or similar) or did you leave unlined? Assuming you made a 2-piece dress, did you need to use some kind of interfacing or stablizer around the bodice hem to keep it flat? Sorry for all the questions but I'm just trying to get things straight in my head. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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personally, I lined the entire bodice with a medium weight stabilizer and sculpted the bodice using darts etc....I slightly stretched the fabric and used a long straight stitch to attach it to the stabilizer....then zig-zagged the edges... (NT) -- just one way :), Thursday, July 09, 10:05:47am I use iron on interfacing to stablize the fabric to minimal or no stretch so it won't sag under the stress of holding the skirt. In addition, I use heavy duty tearaway to stabilize while embroidering. (NT) -- So Cal Trish, Friday, July 10, 12:20:52am I interfaced the entire bodice with medium weight iron on interfacing. (NT) -- R, Friday, July 10, 03:52:44am Sorry, I should have been more clear . . . more -- Thanks, Friday, July 10, 12:38:56pm Oh, gotcha. Maybe cutaway so it stays stable? (NT) -- So Cal Trish, Sunday, July 12, 12:54:18pm

Subject: Hi I have been asked to make a short panelled dress with a deep frill 5" longer than panels. How would you support the frill. I don't care for the look where the frill hangs staight down, I would like it to follow the angles of the side panels, if you get my drift! Thank you.
Author: Marlene [Edit]	Date Posted: Thursday, July 09, 07:26:21am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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you can either attach the frill to the outside of a stiff panel, or use a tutu, or do a semi-soft support as was done with a dress listed on dance.net--I can't find the link, but I have a pic of the underside I'll e-mail to you (NT) -- just send me your e-mail addy....or e-mail me, Thursday, July 09, 08:52:37am Gather tulle or use crinoline for support (NT) -- or use Gavin's stiff backing, Thursday, July 09, 10:03:32am

Subject: Shaped Hems on soft skirts
Author: Mags [Edit]	Date Posted: Thursday, July 09, 03:32:57am Hi Ladies, Can anybody enlighten me how to put a shaped hem on a soft skirt. I know how to do it with the stiffened skirt as the vilene gives it support - what do you use to give support to a soft hem [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Have you tried a tear away stabilizer, or a heavy dissolving one? I have shaped mine using sticky in a hoop, also. (NT) -- R, Thursday, July 09, 08:16:33am

Subject: I am looking for a source with heavier lycra - I received samples from spandex house and one other place and it was about half the thickness of what I am used to buying locally. Any sources you can share??
Author: dc [Edit]	Date Posted: Wednesday, July 08, 07:35:12pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I got great lycra 'offcuts' from ebay from a swimwear company who design their own prints etc. Really thick and strong in 1 - 2 yard lengths. Beautful designs. (NT) -- Just search for lycra, Wednesday, July 08, 08:18:51pm You should look for swimwear lycra. I think this has the thickness you are searching for. Try fabricland.co.uk. (NT) -- in their lycra/swimwear section., Thursday, July 09, 01:23:13am

Subject: does anyone know where I can buy lycra bloomers?
Author: thx [Edit]	Date Posted: Wednesday, July 08, 06:45:31pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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try these sites for -- a start(inside), Wednesday, July 08, 07:37:31pm thanks :) (NT) -- :), Wednesday, July 08, 07:45:51pm Georgielocks on ebay makes them. You can choose a standard size or provide your measurements. (NT) -- R, Friday, July 10, 03:55:56am Just google 'cheerleader briefs' and you will find them. (NT) -- MHH, Tuesday, July 14, 05:38:33am

Subject: Planning a shopping trip to LA. Can anyone recommend a place to find velvet as well as rhinestone appliques? And while were at it...howabout embroidered bridal satins?
Author: Thank you for your recommendations! [Edit]	Date Posted: Wednesday, July 08, 03:34:33pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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For the embroidered bridal satin go to New Fabric Store at the corner of 9th and Maple. For velvet, try Michael Levine's and most any other little store. (NT) -- happy shopping, Wednesday, July 08, 04:22:07pm What is the best velvet to use for a bodice? Not OP... (NT) -- ., Wednesday, July 08, 04:31:04pm Depends on what your criteria is: micro velvet and cotton velvet handle alterations better than a silk or rayon velvet. Bright colors seems to come more in the stretch velvets. Crushed or panne velvet gives a nice texture but people either love it or they hate it. (NT) -- lots of choices!, Wednesday, July 08, 05:10:17pm How about Rhinestone appliques? (NT) -- Wondering too!, Wednesday, July 08, 09:00:03pm If you are looking for unusual colors and are willing to work with silk velvet, -- the Silk Baron is in LA. Information is inside, Thursday, July 09, 10:08:35am

Subject: Has anybody found a good pattern for boys vests for ID?
Author: SDC [Edit]	Date Posted: Tuesday, July 07, 05:24:56pm I searched to archives but came up empty-handed.. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I ended up getting a commercial pattern for wedding attire. Fairly easy to find and of course in all sizes. (NT) -- perhaps even prefer a 'longer' one that show up in the costume section, Tuesday, July 07, 07:34:01pm I have used a reg. vest pattern and just extend the length at the "lengthen or shorten here" spot on the pattern. (NT) -- LynnOH, Sunday, July 12, 11:48:59am

Subject: Fabric Stores
Author: Dress Designer [Edit]	Date Posted: Tuesday, July 07, 04:52:46pm Hello! I am looking for some bright sequin overlays and need some new places to shop! :) I saw so many beautiful overlays at the Nationals and wonder where the BNDM's are getting them? I have loved my fabric from idfabrics but am looking to diversify my selection... does anyone have any sites they could reccommend? Thank you so much! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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white lodge fabrics! not always the best prices, but a fantastic selection (NT) -- =), Tuesday, July 07, 10:40:29pm http://www.recherchefabrics.com/shopfront.php (NT) -- Fun to browse!, Tuesday, July 07, 11:06:27pm I have 5 lots of fabric all sequin bought from dubia for dd to use for dress red teal gold/mustard and 2 muti also teal yellow and truq silk aprox 21/2 to 3 yds each peice. -- e-mail inside, Thursday, July 09, 03:01:57am

Subject: I know this has been asked before but can anyone remember where the instructions are on the web for making the frilled petticoat?
Author: Thanks [Edit]	Date Posted: Monday, July 06, 03:10:31pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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The link for the fish line one is no longer working but I have this one -- inside, Tuesday, July 07, 02:19:07pm thanks for the link (NT) -- thanks, Tuesday, July 07, 06:39:04pm

Subject: Is there a link to somewhere to see photos fom NANs? We get spoilt with Milton down here in Australia. Wondered if anyone in the US does the same..
Author: photos for us to drool over [Edit]	Date Posted: Sunday, July 05, 09:34:53pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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are you talking about the main site? http://www.nanationals.net/nnew/index.php (NT) -- have to log in a nd pay :), Sunday, July 05, 10:42:09pm great photos: http://www.photoreflect.com/pr3/thumbpage.aspx?e=4849685 (NT) -- none, Sunday, July 05, 10:52:39pm I wish I'd known about these before I paid for live commentary! The pictures are so much better, and there are soo many more of all the dancers. Thank you! (NT) -- =), Monday, July 06, 01:22:09am was hoping tht someone else had some photos up somewhere. Just want to see all the new dresses (NT) -- surely someone has photos?, Sunday, July 05, 10:53:34pm Try shamrockphoto.com bottom left has the link to the NAN's photos. (NT) -- have fun!, Sunday, July 05, 11:04:49pm Beautiful Website!! As far as the dresses go..... -- old school, Monday, July 06, 09:05:28am What age groups are you looking at? (NT) -- Trying to find the dresses you are referrring to., Monday, July 06, 07:56:51pm Those chunky front bodice designs - how the HECK are they fitted? Are the darts sewn before the embroidery is done? Cos the embroidery still looks dead straight - no curves which you would expect on a fitted bodice and I can't see darts anywhere (NT) -- intrigued and baffled!, Wednesday, July 08, 06:10:52am not a fan of those chunky bodice designs-makes the girls look much bigger than they really are!! (NT) -- observer, Wednesday, July 08, 09:08:40am I saw some displayed in Gavin's booth. It looked like the embroidery was done before the darts were put in. You could see where the edge of some of the emboidery was taken into the darts. The darts seemed to be farther apart and didn't go up as high as usual. (NT) -- Erin, Wednesday, July 08, 03:26:47pm

Subject: Hello, can antone ell me where I can find Kelly green velvet.
Author: All I found is sage, hunter, and lime. [Edit]	Date Posted: Sunday, July 05, 05:03:49pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Did I hit the wrong keys or what? Can anyone tell me (NT) -- OP, Sunday, July 05, 05:45:34pm Catch more flies with sugar... (NT) -- ., Sunday, July 05, 07:48:58pm If you look at my spelling in the original post you'll see my reason for the 2nd (NT) -- I wasn't demanding to know where the velvet was. OP, Sunday, July 05, 08:46:52pm Velveteen okay? http://www.syfabrics.com/Browse.aspx/Velveteen-Velvet/269 (NT) -- So Cal Trish, Sunday, July 05, 08:15:42pm Thank you for the response. I'm hoping to find cotton velvet. (NT) -- OP, Sunday, July 05, 08:48:57pm would this light emerald work? http://www.threadsofgreenfabrics.com/shop/index.php?cPath=71_33_69 (NT) -- maybe?---and I didn't think you were being rude :), Sunday, July 05, 10:04:22pm Spandex House has kelly green stretch velvet. SV-046- I've had good luck with them many times in the past. (NT) -- Laurie, Sunday, July 05, 10:20:07pm Threads of Geen has a light emerald green cotton velvet. It is close to kelly green. Go to: www.threadsofgreenfabrics.com and get into online store. (NT) -- Mary, Monday, July 06, 11:05:17am I think I'll get some swatches. Thank you ladies for your help. (NT) -- OP, Monday, July 06, 04:57:55pm

Subject: On Ebay...Another Irish Dance Dress Unfinished Project Beautiful Red/Cream pieces!
Author: no time to complete :) [Edit]	Date Posted: Sunday, July 05, 01:54:20pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I just finished a dress similar to the size you are making. I ordered 3 yards (of a nap fabric, which influenced how I cut out the pieces) and it turned out to be just right. Thankfully I didn't have to recut anything, though I came out with a little extra. (NT) -- good luck!, Sunday, July 05, 05:01:09pm Oops! Intended previous response to the post below! That's what happens when you try to post anything with the kids around! (NT) -- good luck! (again), Sunday, July 05, 05:02:55pm

Subject: Help! Found perfect fabric locally but my pattern is still in the mail. Can anyone tell me how much to buy? Worried if I wait until Monday when pattern arrives, it will be gone!
Author: cait [Edit]	Date Posted: Saturday, July 04, 04:39:38pm I am making a basic dress with a five panel skirt over a underskirt. I need to know how much fabric to buy for a woman (US) size 8. The dress will be a similar cut to the link attached. http://www.dance-again.com/X1413.html I am looking at specifically the base fabric for the body, arms and skirt petals (in the link, this is the pink fabric). Thanks for any help!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I'd estimate 3 yards. But balance the cost of buying extra with the headache of not buying enough. Also depends on width of fabric and if the fabric is directional. (NT) -- many variables, Saturday, July 04, 06:07:26pm You'll probably need 1.5 yards for the skirt and 1.5 for the bodice, but I'd buy an extra .5-1 yard just to be safe. Mistakes happen! (NT) -- better safe than sorry, Saturday, July 04, 09:00:42pm thanks so much- it's fairly cheap so I'll buy 5 yards to be safe. You guys are great:) (NT) -- Op, Saturday, July 04, 10:32:30pm

Subject: Expanding a business?
Author: curious... [Edit]	Date Posted: Saturday, July 04, 12:51:53pm I've been wondering this for awhile: does anyone else aspire to transition their business from small time (2-4 dresses a month) to the "big leagues"? Perhaps not as popular as Gavin, but busy enough to need employees (6-20 dresses a month) and be known as someone who makes attractive and well made dresses for everyone from average to high placing dancers. Sometimes I feel like I've hit a glass ceiling in this business, and I want to progress further (out of - to be 100% honest - competitiveness, desire for financial stability, and a tiny bit of artistic vanity), but I'm stuck in my niche. Dressmaking (and everything else in dance!) seems to be so much about who you know I know few people who aren't dressmakers or customers... It's not that I don't stay busy, because I certainly do, its just that I feel like I could do so much more but don't know if its even possible to get there. If anyone else feels the same, what are you doing to expand? Do you have any ideas on how to become better known despite a lack of connections? Or methods for developing connections? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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oh my gosh---you are me! I make 1 dress every 3 weeks...and have decided to hire help---maybe for off the racks until she learns to make a custom (NT) -- have you had to turn people away?, Saturday, July 04, 02:43:37pm advice -- former dm, Saturday, July 04, 08:32:15pm I think unless you are connected to a big school with a teacher supportive of you you don't have much chance. It seems to all be about who you know and keeping up with the BNDM trends. (NT) -- plus you need to make sure your quality doesn't go down at all, Saturday, July 04, 08:39:36pm My experience inside. -- K, Sunday, July 05, 02:49:02am You make some good points. I personally can't imagine very many DMs recoup cost of those big machines, unless they're doiong other than ID work -- more inside..., Sunday, July 05, 05:19:43pm Hey! Who said you could go into my head, pull out my exact words, and make people think these were your thoughts?! lol I swear I have said the exact same thing, in those exact words. I can't criticize someone's work either, and I can't afford the extra time it would take me to re-do work that did not meet up to my expectations. (NT) -- need money to make money, Sunday, July 05, 10:19:19pm Wow - I have thought about this so many times. I let go of the emboirdery work to a very competed few but I cannot let go of the final product... its really hard. I feel your pain (NT) -- MJ, Sunday, July 05, 08:47:42pm For now I am making the best of what I have. Can't afford new machines, can't afford to pay help. (NT) -- hope for the best, Sunday, July 05, 10:22:25pm

Subject: Just back from NANs-those of you wanting to make an OTR-go for the glitz factor-that is all the rage right now!
Author: 3panels are quite rare [Edit]	Date Posted: Saturday, July 04, 12:16:37pm newer dresses seen have very simple/plain skirts-bodices are heavily adorned with simple,geometric motifs-only using 2 or 3 colors total on the dress-and thousands of stones-saw lots of dresses with the acrylic,larger stones-trimming necklines,waistlines and sleeves-a few Gavins were black bases with 2 or 3 colored embroidery designs-mostly wispy,whimsical motifs-and the stitching was very large/wide. Did see some appliqued dresses-but the designs were again simple,repeating one or two motifs and in only 1 or 2 colors-all appliques had stones-either clear or to match color of appliques--the main theme was glitz,sparkle,glitter! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Saw one on podium yesterday U17 had a ton of stones on bodice around neck looked great donr know if dancer did it themselves or dressmaker (NT) -- lots of gllitz, Saturday, July 04, 02:37:14pm which side of under17? A or B which place ? (NT) -- dm, Saturday, July 04, 06:59:08pm A, 2nd or 3rd place (NT) -- dont know name, Saturday, July 04, 10:12:30pm LOVE that dress! The shade of purple is unique, and the rhinestones are really pretty! (NT) -- =), Saturday, July 04, 10:16:45pm Thats Emily M's dress from BFOC its a Gavin, she added all the rhinestones herself , said it was around 9 gross of varying sizes . (NT) -- friend, Sunday, July 05, 08:39:41am awesome dancer-I had her pegged for 1st place-but top 3 not (NT) -- so bad!, Sunday, July 05, 10:17:28am The jewels are certainly reminiscent of Ballroom/Latin dresses. The designs are made from jewels rather than fabric applique. Weigh a ton! I figured we'd end up going in that direction, lol. (NT) -- so many jewels, wow, Sunday, July 05, 05:24:20pm I've loved most of the new styles that have been coming out until now... I feel like we're heading back to unattractive dress land. =/ Some of the new ones are stunning, and some are...stunning. (NT) -- meh, Saturday, July 04, 08:22:40pm Haha! Loved your use of the word stunning. Could it possibly be the most overused word when it comes to describing irish dancing dresses? It has taken on a whole new meaning, (NT) -- "stunning", Tuesday, July 07, 03:06:00am Here's the trick...go buy used Ballroom/Latin dresses and convert them. The weight of them is outragious, tho...so heavy don't know how IDers would get off the ground. (NT) -- around and around we go, Saturday, July 04, 08:34:23pm

Subject: stretch velvet dress - skirt pulling bodice out of shape
Author: lbrown [Edit]	Date Posted: Friday, July 03, 05:13:27pm Okaym, so I'm new at this. I jJust made my first dress - petal dress out of beautiful micro-sequin stretch velvet from Joann's. I did not interface the bodice at the suggestion of my pattern-maker, because we wanted to achieve the "glove-like" fit of a stretch fabric. But now I've a problem: the weight of the skirt is pulling the bodice completely out of shape. It does not fit right at all. Any suggestions? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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You're going to need a stable base for the skirt, its just too heavy for a stretch bodice. Have you considered make the dress two pieces? Either putting the skirt on an underbodice, or waist band? (NT) -- =/, Friday, July 03, 05:18:54pm Thinking about this a little more, there should be no reason you can't achieve a snug, attractive fit with a non-stretch bodice. Corsets, wedding dresses, and period costumes are all tight fitting and rarely stretchy...its definitely a lot of fitting work, but its doable. (NT) -- just a thought, Friday, July 03, 05:20:42pm I was thinking a two-piece might be the best solution at this point. Would an elastic waistband really just do the trick? I haven't looked closely at any two-pieces to see how they are done. (NT) -- lbrown, Friday, July 03, 06:46:25pm It would probably be the easiest! I don't think plain elastic would be sturdy enough, but a good structured waistband (2-3" wide) should work. My only concern would be the skirt twisting. Anyone have any experience with this? (NT) -- =), Friday, July 03, 06:59:08pm I'm in the process of making a dress using stretch velvet and decided on a two piece dress for this reason. I'm going to make a sleeveless cotton bodice to attach to the skirt and then the outer bodice will be a jacket with an open ended zip. I will use press studs to attach the jacket to the skirt so that it lines up perfectly. (NT) -- In my head it all looks great - reality might be a different story!, Saturday, July 04, 03:48:56am Hello thre. I have now made three senior dresses with stretch velvet for the skin tight look the girls go for. To stop the stretch problem at the waist, which you don't want, I iron on medium interfacing, a band of say 2" wide. I have not had a problem since. (NT) -- UK DM, Saturday, July 04, 11:01:00am where does the band start and end? At the skirt top and 2" above? Or right in the middle? Does it show a line or ridge there when on the dancer? (NT) -- curious., Tuesday, July 14, 12:32:38am

Subject: Headed to NANs-dd not competing(injured)but we are going for moral support of dance classmates
Author: excited for the trip [Edit]	Date Posted: Thursday, July 02, 08:42:33am am toting along my sewing machine-made a few dresses that will be worn on the stage this weekend-want to have all bases covered-can't wait to see some of the newer styles that debut-especially from overseas dancers. Have a good 4th everyone! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: on dance.net ...beautiful dress pink/black dress by realtreble...anyone know how to get in touch with her for more samples of work?
Author: thank you [Edit]	Date Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 09:11:32am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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You could send her a message through Dance.net? (NT) -- it's the PM button, Wednesday, July 01, 09:49:08am I am "Realtreble" on dance.net. You can PM me as suggested or use the link below to send me a direct email (NT) -- Click here for dressmaker link, Wednesday, July 01, 10:01:36am

Subject: sticky backing for hoops ( velvet) - Can anyone advise the name for hooping velvet? So that it doesn't mark - is it available in Australia?? If so where?
Author: Appreciative newbie dm [Edit]	Date Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 05:35:58am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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http://www.embroiderysource.com.au/shoppingcart/default.cfm?cat_id=686 (NT) -- Jillian, Wednesday, July 01, 06:47:22pm Thank you for the reply - I will email them! Very much appreciated (NT) -- OP, Wednesday, July 01, 07:17:44pm Its called Neschan from embroidery source (NT) -- Ina, Wednesday, July 01, 09:55:24pm

Subject: Looks like sequins are back! Friend's dd just received new Siopa Rince dress and entire bodice is sequin.
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: Tuesday, June 30, 07:11:54am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Where is it written that sdm's must follow the leader? (NT) -- Start your own trends!, Tuesday, June 30, 09:48:13am What's so wrong with following the leader? From a business perspective, it only makes sense. From a personal perspective, I'm getting bored with velvet and ready for a change. (NT) -- =), Tuesday, June 30, 11:43:09am Sadly, sdm must follow what bndm do or business will suffer. We can choose which trends to follow but our dresses must be considered up-to-date by tc's standards. I am also glad to be able to use stock pile of sequin fabric. (NT) -- realist, Tuesday, June 30, 10:56:17am The number of TCs who are requiring BNDM dresses for novices and prizewinners just shock me (NT) -- has anyone else run into this?, Tuesday, June 30, 11:14:29am Novices?? Our school doesn't allowed novice dancers to wear solos. (NT) -- mp, Wednesday, July 01, 10:19:22am Many novices use solo dresses...depends upon your school. School hasn't had school dresses made in 15 years. (NT) -- glad for the solos, Thursday, July 02, 10:23:06am Not true. Silverlode has her own style, and always had work. (NT) -- Variety is nicer, Tuesday, June 30, 02:25:09pm I have always had work, but customers generally know what they want and it usually goes with whatever the trends are. However, there have been some exceptions. Just have to find someone brave enough to go with something different. (NT) -- what's next?, Tuesday, June 30, 05:47:38pm I personally don't like some of the styles that have come out from BNDMs over the past couple of years... funnily enough, neither do a lot of parents and dancers in our school. However, once upon a time the BNDMs were just like us - small dressmakers. They made their own styles and they caught on. It was not that long ago that I remember Elevation being the new kid on the block. We can watch, but does not mean we have to follow, we can still do our own thing. (NT) -- Its all about how you market yourself as well., Wednesday, July 01, 07:52:15pm

Subject: Lets send post below down to the archives been at the top of page too long!
Author: me [Edit]	Date Posted: Tuesday, June 30, 02:06:21am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Ah its gone! (NT) -- me, Tuesday, June 30, 02:07:12am

Subject: Looks like geometrics are back!
Author: on the fence [Edit]	Date Posted: Sunday, June 28, 01:50:17pm just back from a local feis-saw 2 brand new SR dresses-nothing but solid block shaped appliques done in geometric fashion on bodice and skirt-very plain but definately striking and a stark contrast to the embroidered bodices/skirts that have been all the rage the past year- what a merry-go-round this dressmaking activity is! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Pictures? (NT) -- curious, Sunday, June 28, 03:03:12pm couldn't get photos-as dancers were wearing them while competing and I don't know them well enough to ask for a pose -- sorry, Sunday, June 28, 03:53:13pm How were they alike/different from previous dresses? (NT) -- puff ball/ rahrah/cheerleader skirts??, Sunday, June 28, 08:11:14pm Only if we let them be, and my opinion is DONT! (NT) -- still dislike them!, Monday, June 29, 09:49:54pm was never keen on geometrics , especially the ones that were 'key designs'. They always reminded me more of Aztec designs or Greek designs and just didn't seem right. However, I did end up making my dd a dress that was covered in diamond shapes ( her idea not mine) and it was the one everyone commented on as it stood out from 'pack'. Although it could be because she is 6ft tall too...lol. (NT) -- Seems theres room for all styles whether we personally like / dislike., Wednesday, July 01, 07:59:39pm

Subject: Congratulations to Lisa at Dance Again for getting her site up again. Repeat to ourselves:
Author: ; ) [Edit]	Date Posted: Friday, June 26, 08:09:52am computers are our friends, computers are our friends..... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Agreed! She does such a good job and puts a lot of hardwork into her site! Thanks Lisa! (NT) -- Happy Dancer, Friday, June 26, 12:20:19pm yay yay yay .... can drool over dresses again. alwasy so inspiring - even just to see colour combos (NT) -- love to look, Friday, June 26, 10:15:25pm Relief! I was facing withdrawal symptoms!Thanks for helping a nonrecovering irishdancedressaholic (NT) -- by getting those dresses back up again!, Friday, June 26, 10:22:39pm oh me too---finally got my fix... (NT) -- I kept checking and checking...lol I'm addicted!, Saturday, June 27, 09:59:28pm Me too!!! she's part of my morning coffee ritual!!! So happy it's all up and running again:-) (NT) -- happy happy, Monday, June 29, 03:34:39pm

Subject: I listed a Very unfinished project on ebay wherein I was redoing an used dress with other salvage pieces...I tried to express in the post that an expeienced seamstress would need to undertake this task but I'm concerned that people think that this is an easier task than it is... inside is my resopnse to one of the questions from a buyer...please tell me what y'all think I need to add...
Author: concerned [Edit]	Date Posted: Friday, June 26, 07:30:53am Hi...I'm not sure I understand what you mean by missing parts :) This is a very rough, first gathering together of much of what I intended to use to redo the dress...All of the pieces [meaning EVERYTHING bodice, sleeves, skirt really... EVERYTHING will have to be sized properly, cut and sewn to fit together, lined so that it will have the proper stabilization to stand up to dancing :) etc, etc :)] The pieces will NOT just fit together they will need to be signficantly adjusted and sized/sewn properly....This is all a significant task...Also as noted the original dress is in used condition so there is wear which will affect the "putting it all together process" ... Sorry, if this sounds off-putting, and really, this is not just in response to just your question (so I'm very sorry if you already understood this) but others who have similarly inquired...This is not like dress kit that readily fits together. It will require significant work and knowledge of sewing...I'm copying this to the ebay post...Hope this explanation helps/and or answers your question...Take care :) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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sorry about typos (NT) -- me, Friday, June 26, 07:31:35am I read the posts that you listed to advertise your ebay listing and I thought it was more of a kit that you were selling. My thoughts were that you were making a new dress and had gotten too busy too finish and were selling the whole kit and caboodle on ebay. (NT) -- add the descritption for sure, Friday, June 26, 09:20:43am Thanks, I added the description and edited with lots of bold type to make sure bidders understood that it is a used dress and a significant re-do project... (NT) -- just tired, not trying to mislead :), Friday, June 26, 09:40:53am I also read your post on eBay. Thought it was very clear that it was a work in progress for someone experienced with making ID dresses. (NT) -- a dm, Saturday, June 27, 10:31:15am

Subject: Hi op here. Thanks for all your replies. What colours are available in this fabric. I would be more than happy to purchase from someone willing to get this for me. You are all very kind. Thank you.
Author: Mom [Edit]	Date Posted: Friday, June 26, 03:58:45am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Padded headband
Author: Arts & Craft newbie [Edit]	Date Posted: Thursday, June 25, 10:43:45pm Hi I am going to try making my own headband for my solo dress. Can anyone please tell me where I can buy those plain padded headbands? I guess they are called barrel headband and I will be decorating them with fabrics and crystals. My friends keep telling me that I can get headbands anywhere but of course they are never there when you are looking for them. Thanks for your help, I live in NYC. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Plain padded headbands are found at Joanne's Fabric in the wedding section. I've also fund padded headbands at AC Moore and re-covered it. If you're going for extra thick - double your headhand... (NT) -- Good luck., Friday, June 26, 12:02:18am In Ohio, our dollar stores have these headbands, but in limited colors (NT) -- Also check Claire's, Friday, June 26, 08:08:26am Found them! (NT) -- Thanks everyone for your help., Friday, June 26, 11:13:18am I found the plastic headbands with a foam pad on top (not covered) at Michaels. Can someone post an easy way to cover them? I am all thumbs when I try! (NT) -- Hot glue is definitely not my medium!, Saturday, June 27, 10:36:00am I have found that glue does not work well for covering the headband because of the curve. What I do is cut a square of fabric big enough to cover the entire headband. Place the headband diagonally across the centre of the square. Then wrap tightly over the headband, pin at the back trimming the extra fabric as I go and tucking under the raw edge, then stitch tightly at the back. Works really well. The fabric comes up perfectly smooth as long as you pin and stitch tightly. (NT) -- R, Monday, June 29, 05:43:56am I have used stretch velvet to cover headbands and simply sew a tube with 1 open end, roll the tube onto the padded headband and smooth the fabric in place. All you need to do then is handstitch the open end closed. It helps to stitch in the elastic loops first with the machine so there are attachments for the dancer to use for her pins. (NT) -- Laurie, Monday, June 29, 09:49:42am Two great suggestions! Thanks, I'm going to try them both. (NT) -- hot glue challenged poster, Tuesday, June 30, 07:16:00am

Subject: Can anyone tell me where I can find green iridescent sequins (flat - not cupped)?
Author: Thanks, mom [Edit]	Date Posted: Thursday, June 25, 08:37:15pm My DDs Gavin has green sequins falling off the dress and I want to sew them back on. These sequins are not a flat green color. They're definately iridescent. I tried Joanne's but they only had a flat green. Not sure where else to look and not sure if I have the correct name of the sequins. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Forgot to mention.. preferrably located in the U.S. (NT) -- Thanks again, Thursday, June 25, 08:41:13pm Okay... Found another word for it... Hologram. It's a green hologram color. (NT) -- THANKS!!, Thursday, June 25, 08:44:08pm Another name for this sequin is lazer cut. JoAnn's has them (NT) -- Check eBay or Theatre house, too, Thursday, June 25, 09:19:04pm On the Theatre House site, they are called (NT) -- spotlight sequins, Friday, June 26, 08:10:57am Cartwright sequins is a good source...minimum buy of $10 though, but you can get many different colors, and go in with other parents to share the cost. -- ~K, Thursday, June 25, 08:51:25pm Thanks... I found the sequins I need there. 6mm green hologram. Only problem is I only need about 100-200 for a repair job. Any other ideas? (NT) -- Seemstress wannabe, Thursday, June 25, 09:18:27pm I actually have a baggie full of these, leftovers from a long ago dress. I'd be happy to mail them to you.Just e-mail me your address. (NT) -- Kathleen, Thursday, June 25, 10:48:05pm OMG! How nice are you? I had posted from work and just came home to try again as I couldn't get into some websites from my work. (NT) -- I'm emailing you now., Friday, June 26, 12:14:30am

Subject: I know this has been asked and answered many times, but I lost my main drive and with it all my links--
Author: None on eBay [Edit]	Date Posted: Thursday, June 25, 05:10:23pm I am looking for black cutwork/cut out lace. I'm not having any luck with google or eBay. Thank you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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http://www.threadsofgreenfabrics.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=71_25_164&products_id=6526 (NT) -- here you go, Thursday, June 25, 11:07:04pm I have a piece of this left over if you are interested. Bought 1 metre and only cut out 2 sleeves. YOu can have it for �15 if you are interested (NT) -- Mum, Friday, June 26, 04:01:00am Sorry but the lace I have is not the one posted above. It's from White lodge. email if you are interested. (NT) -- Mum again, Friday, June 26, 04:02:19am

Subject: Are other dressmakers feeling the same as me? All people seem to want is copies of BN dresses (one BN in particular) at knockdown prices. Better workmanship, superb one-off designs and lovely fabrics and colours, excellent shape and look on stage, but all for half the price!? Do you oblige, to sell dresses, or do you struggle to make your own mark, or do you just say No?
Author: Confused DM [Edit]	Date Posted: Thursday, June 25, 04:59:26pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I go my own way, but find it helpful to talk to customers in terms of "silhouettes." They may want a SR puffball, but I understand them to mean the shape, not the complete design. (NT) -- My biggest problem is with TCs who demand BNDMs for Nov & PWs, Thursday, June 25, 05:14:33pm Set your own policies, then let them say "no". You can then decide if you still have enough customers or if you need to bend a little. (NT) -- my thoughts, Thursday, June 25, 06:48:40pm As a parent (see inside) -- my take, Thursday, June 25, 07:35:37pm Will you please buy a dress from me? (NT) -- You are the customer from heaven, Thursday, June 25, 09:21:24pm Most of my customers are like you, and are wonderful to work with! BND's are the defining look for these costumes, and I find it fun to work with customers to get the look w/ my own twist. (NT) -- there's a market for "different" dresses, but its small, Friday, June 26, 11:25:20am I don't take orders for solos because I never seem tpo be happy with what it turns out like - and I don't want ot put my name to it then. I do make OTR and sometimes I even sell them - mostly I lend them to kids who need them at the time. FOr the most part, each dress I make is an experiment in technique or style or whatever. (NT) -- Just don't have the confidence to actaully sell to order right now, Friday, June 26, 10:23:17pm

Subject: I am looking for neon orange/bright orange velvet. Does anyone know of a source for this?
Author: I appreciate the assistance! [Edit]	Date Posted: Thursday, June 25, 02:26:48pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Spandex House has it, but it is stretch (NT) -- other places also..in stretch, Thursday, June 25, 02:32:34pm http://www.theatrehouse.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=THH&Product_Code=8565GLO&Category_Code=FabVelvet (NT) -- Orange Glo with dots, Thursday, June 25, 04:54:19pm whitelodge has this in spandex (NT) -- Ina, Thursday, June 25, 05:04:08pm

Subject: I'm working with a very glittery fabric. How can I keep so much of it from falling off? Spray with something??
Author: thank you [Edit]	Date Posted: Thursday, June 25, 01:51:23pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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(I suspect you aren't getting any responses because the answer is you can't really do anything.) Try shaking out the fabric before you start your work to eliminate the glitter which has loosened already (NT) -- Keep the vacuum handy, Thursday, June 25, 09:23:34pm and keep the cat away (smile) (NT) -- No name, Friday, June 26, 09:01:14am but Aslan looks so nice with purple sparkles in her golden fur --- (Cheshire Cat Smile) (NT) -- Kathleen, Friday, June 26, 02:31:11pm Actually, there is a No Fray spray that I have used on glittery fabric and it worked beautifully. I forget where I bought it...Hancock's maybe? (NT) -- dm, Friday, June 26, 03:45:13pm I got mine at Hancock's as well. Works pretty well, but be sure to use it outside only. It is very smelly! (NT) -- hth, Friday, June 26, 08:52:07pm heres what I di ... make sure you do this in well ventilated space and keep pets away... -- Lee in Darwin, Friday, June 26, 10:33:03pm Wow Lee, this post came at just the right time! I was working on a solo vest with glitter for a client and I came home from the fabric store with yet another lovely glittered fabric. The client's fabric didn't "shed" too badly, but when I pulled the new fabric out to show my dd, we watched it rain glitter. Your technique worked well on the vest fabric; I'm going to really put it to the test with this next piece! (NT) -- Thanks! BJ, Wednesday, July 01, 06:53:24am Glad to help. Remember the well ventilated area part though or you might be seeing rainbows without the assistance of glitter (NT) -- Lee in Darwin, Sunday, July 12, 10:27:44am

Subject: Listed on ebay USA...Perfect Shape Fays Hard Shoes Grey Sole 2 UK, Split sole hard shoes 12.5 US, Steprite ghillies 3 UK, Capezio Dance Sneakers 1.5 US
Author: Bargains! [Edit]	Date Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 06:45:55pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I wonder how these help with dressmaking???? (NT) -- Scroll on by I guess, Tuesday, June 23, 10:49:49pm Sorry. Just figured irish dressmakers might like to know about a bargain for their little dancers. (NT) -- not trying to upset, Wednesday, June 24, 06:33:58am They know how to find other message boards where this listing would be appropriate. (NT) -- :), Sunday, June 28, 10:02:52pm

Subject: Does anyone here know how to reach a dressmaker who goes by Majestic Creations? I can't remember her real name, and I can't find a website, but I love the dresses I've seen at feiseanna!
Author: Thanks for your help! [Edit]	Date Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 05:34:08pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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No, wait, I think it's Majestic Ideas. (NT) -- Sorry!, Tuesday, June 23, 05:34:38pm Majestic Dress? (NT) -- Terri E CO, Wednesday, June 24, 12:25:33am I'm told it's Majestic Design. At least I remembered the Majestic part! (NT) -- :), Wednesday, June 24, 01:22:06am It's Lauren Wilke and her email is pentakids@yahoo.com She is amazing and is so talented with her embroidery machine. Highly recommend. (NT) -- ., Friday, June 26, 12:27:43pm

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