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Date Posted: 17:35:17 07/22/11 Fri
Author: Caroline
Author Host/IP: 027c221f.bb.sky.com / 2.124.34.31
Subject: My goodness me, you can really go off children!

Have just met my Year 10s who will be Year 11 next year.

One was asleep.
One was texting.
One was trying to stick glue into another pupil's hair.
One had a stand-up fight with their teacher.
One had a row with another pupil.

Oh Joy!

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[> Re: My goodness me, you can really go off children! -- AW, 23:36:33 07/23/11 Sat (c-71-201-144-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net/71.201.144.231)

Where are you? Just curious. I'm wondering if that's like our sophomore and junior year or not.

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[> [> Re: My goodness me, you can really go off children! -- Caroline, 11:16:38 07/24/11 Sun (027c221f.bb.sky.com/2.124.34.31)

At a school in London. This was Year 10 so they're 15. Believe it or not, next year they will do their GCSEs, upon which a great deal rests although, having seen them, you'd never think it! I felt so sorry for the ones in the class who were trying to learn.

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[> Re: My goodness me, you can really go off children! -- Kookiekat2, 13:56:32 07/24/11 Sun (cache-dtc-aa09.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.13)

It's the home training, children are left to raise themselves while their "parents" ignore them or uphold their behavior as though somehow it's the world's fault.

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[> [> Re: My goodness me, you can really go off children! -- Caroline, 14:56:31 07/24/11 Sun (027c221f.bb.sky.com/2.124.34.31)

Yes, well, I can see a few battles next term! As for the sleepy one, I'll be on the phone to his mother asking what he's doing that he wants to sleep all day.

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[> We haven't met Doc's new students yet -- Gachnar, 13:29:32 07/27/11 Wed (70-58-93-126.tukw.qwest.net/70.58.93.126)

We'll have the list of names next month. Two of his classes are AP Chem, and about half of those kids are his former students from General Chem, so that's nice. The first Advanced Placement Chem class starts at 7:50 a.m., and that's always "Sleepy Chem," but we've found that the AP kids do take school more seriously and at least try to show up on time and awake. Still, it's hard for them - so many of them do stay up all night, texting and whatnot. Their frontal lobes aren't matured enough for them to make rational decisions about thinkgs like going to be early when they know they have to be in class early (and some have a two-bus ride to contend with to get there). The "parents" (as Kookiecat2 so eloquently puts it) don't step up and make them go to bed at a decent hour, and there are all kinds of studies the kids themselves can quote about how teenagers' sleep rhythms are different -- B.S., I say! Sure, if you stay up until 3 a.m. your sleep rhythms are going to be "different!"

The sleeper, the texter and the glue-stick wielder you can deal with - it's the fighters who worry me. Calls to parents about violence usually reveal violence-prone parents, I've found. Here, if a student even thinks about being agressive towards a teacher he is OUT of the classroom and in the principal's office so fast he doesn't know what hit him, and his parents are called in, too. I'd suggest that you insist on that, too, at your school. Agression towards teachers cannot be tolerated.

But you know, Caroline, that's only five students out of a classful. The other (how many? 25?) kids, the ones who show up on time, awake and ready to learn, do make up for the slackers, if the slackers aren't allowed to run the place. Good luck and enjoy!

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[> [> Re: We haven't met Doc's new students yet -- Caroline, 21:43:07 07/28/11 Thu (5e040ce0.bb.sky.com/94.4.12.224)

I can't believe you have to start a class at 07:50! I think there would be a riot if we tried that. I'm too sure that the teachers would be keen either here so I'm really impressed by that. That really is beyond the call of duty.

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[> [> [> Yeah, it's a cost-cutting measure -- Gachnar (Ahem: Happy Birthday to me!), 13:39:50 07/29/11 Fri (70-58-93-126.tukw.qwest.net/70.58.93.126)

Middle- and high-school kids here take city busses to school rather than regular school busses, and some schools have to start early in order to schedule the busses to serve everyone (and the adult commuters aren't too happy about sharing "their" busses with the kids and their backpacks!). Unfortunately, half the kids at our school live in an area that does not have a direct bus line, so they have to catch one bus going the wrong way and then transfer to one going the right way. It's insane, and dangerous, too, during our short winter days when it's full dark both getting to and from school. Add to that Seattleites' propensity for wearing all black, and the fact that they're kids and not too smart about waiting at the designated crosswalk to try to cross the street, it's a real problem. Once a month or so I complain to Muni and ask for at least a designated bus from point A to point B, but I always just get a "thank you for your suggestion" reply.

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[> [> [> [> Happy Birthday -- Caroline, 14:51:09 07/29/11 Fri (5e040ce0.bb.sky.com/94.4.12.224)

Happy Birthday to You,
Happy Birthday to You,
Happy Birthday, Darling Gachnar,
Happy Birthday to You!

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[> Re: My goodness me, you can really go off children! -- Saltygoodness, 14:34:37 07/28/11 Thu (adsl-99-49-34-50.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net/99.49.34.50)

Ahhhhhhhhh, educators. The reason the world turns, the sun shines, and life continues. Thank you. For being there for our children, for caring about the ones who deserve it least, and for being patient with we parents when we drop the ball. You deserve much more. . . .of everything: money, time, respect, adulation, and just plain affection. Again, thank you.

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[> [> Oh, she's so beautiful! -- Gachnar, 13:43:51 07/29/11 Fri (70-58-93-126.tukw.qwest.net/70.58.93.126)


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[> [> [> Bastet, I mean. Don't know how this ended up here. -- Gach, 13:45:30 07/29/11 Fri (70-58-93-126.tukw.qwest.net/70.58.93.126)


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[> You just have to watch your back ... -- Lewis H., 15:32:04 07/28/11 Thu (proxy2d.external.lmco.com/192.91.172.42)

when you're heating up the stove.



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[> [> Re: You just have to watch your back ... -- Caroline, 21:25:02 07/28/11 Thu (5e040ce0.bb.sky.com/94.4.12.224)

That's fantastic.

I'd love to show you a picture of my Mum and I at my graduation but I can't work out how to do it. I think - or maybe this will work.

http://s913.photobucket.com/albums/ac337/carolineandterry/

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[> [> [> Re: You just have to watch your back ... -- Caroline, 21:33:10 07/28/11 Thu (5e040ce0.bb.sky.com/94.4.12.224)

Here's another attempt.



I think that might have worked. However, as she is so much more attractive, here's a picture of Bastet.

Photobucket

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