i agree with you about 'SA' but i also think in terms of 'greatness' it's all relative b/c 9 times out of 10 when anyone is talking about naming a 'greatest' work it really comes down to 'personal favorite.' alot of folks would name bssm as the 'greatest' peppers album but why? was it the lyrical content or just the kick ass sexy grooves of most of the songs? what makes 'bssm superior to 'cali' or 'btw' or 'sa?' personally, the thing that grabs me most is lyrical content and ant. has grown SO MUCH over the years and for this reason, 'cali' is my fave album (i'm not saying 'greatest' as again, that's relative), followed by bssm and then SA. to me, it's all about growth and the fact that they continue to push themselves even at this stage in the game makes me proud to be a fan. i'm proud that they know 'bssm' is their most popular album but they flat out refuse to make 'bssm part 2.' moving forward. growth. God, i love those 4 men! -- Tribute To Beeninsane

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Date Posted: 12:26:27 11/09/06 Thu
Author: strawb.
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Subject: i agree with you about 'SA' but i also think in terms of 'greatness' it's all relative b/c 9 times out of 10 when anyone is talking about naming a 'greatest' work it really comes down to 'personal favorite.' alot of folks would name bssm as the 'greatest' peppers album but why? was it the lyrical content or just the kick ass sexy grooves of most of the songs? what makes 'bssm superior to 'cali' or 'btw' or 'sa?' personally, the thing that grabs me most is lyrical content and ant. has grown SO MUCH over the years and for this reason, 'cali' is my fave album (i'm not saying 'greatest' as again, that's relative), followed by bssm and then SA. to me, it's all about growth and the fact that they continue to push themselves even at this stage in the game makes me proud to be a fan. i'm proud that they know 'bssm' is their most popular album but they flat out refuse to make 'bssm part 2.' moving forward. growth. God, i love those 4 men!
In reply to: Marshall 's message, "Sorry to sort of hijack the thread, but this brings to mind a question I find interesting - Most people agree that BSSM is the Peppers' best, but what does everyone consider their SECOND best? I'm actually gonna have to go with 'Stadium,' but I suppose that could just be because of the relative "newness" of it. But I really love it - I think it does a great job of balancing the craft of 'Cali'/'BTW' with some of the wreckless abandon of 'BSSM.' Thoughts?" on 11:17:13 11/09/06 Thu

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Great post, Strawberry! I agree with you on the idea of actual "greatness" versus personal taste. As breathing, feeling human beings, it's impossible for us to ever achieve true objectivity. I also agree with you in applauding the band's commitment to evolving and growing. I agree that the lyrical content has improved in recent years, but the thing that impresses me the most is AK's (relatively) newfound gift for MELODY. This guy just knocks off melody after amazing melody like it's the easiest thing in the world to do - and as a person who has tried to write songs in his life, I can tell you it's not easy at all. It's amazing to me that over 28 tracks on 'Stadium' - more than 2 hours of music, AK never seems hung up for a melodic idea. They seem to come as naturally as breathing. (NT) -- Marshall, 12:47:21 11/09/06 Thu (dsu5-46.deltastate.edu/209.147.245.46)
- About them not creating BSSM p2. I think them reuniting in 97 was unique because even though its the original BSSM lineup its almost a different band. Most bands who reunite after 5+ years go tour for the songs from there heyday but these guys have been in theres since reforming the band. To me the band who creativly split in 92 best album was BSSM. I adore SA and Cali; In terms of album release date I liked BTW the most. it spoke to me about a relationship at the time. (NT) -- digaree, 15:39:50 11/09/06 Thu (c-66-177-52-37.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/66.177.52.37)
/ -- lnllkzac ddajiieBnB, 14:38:38 11/09/06 Thu (NoHost/76.16.242.124)
- IMO their weakest was 'By The Way'. 5 good songs max to me (NT) -- Ian, 00:27:54 11/10/06 Fri (belf-cache-5.server.ntli.net/62.254.32.23)
  - Really? Wow, I really love that album. What were the 5 songs you liked? (NT) -- Marshall, 07:29:24 11/10/06 Fri (dialup-4.167.44.135.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net/4.167.44.135)
    - Dosed, Don't Forget Me, The Zephyr Song, Can't Stop, Minor Thing. (NT) -- Ian, 08:11:05 11/10/06 Fri (belf-cache-5.server.ntli.net/62.254.32.23)
      - You don't like Venice Queen? That one's probably in my top ten RHCP tracks ever. (NT) -- Marshall, 09:23:32 11/10/06 Fri (dsl-209-205-169-65.i-55.com/209.205.169.65)
        I used to like it at the beginning but it lost its allure for me. (NT) -- Ian, 06:34:44 11/11/06 Sat (belf-cache-5.server.ntli.net/62.254.32.23)