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Subject: Re: Grand Ocean Hotel

Author: Kingston

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 01:31:07 03/25/07 Sun In reply to: Mat 's message, "Re: Grand Ocean Hotel" on 11:03:30 03/24/07 Sat It is true that if you are going to enter into a debate on a topic that other people obviously feel so strongly about, you should have a more worthwhile objective to achieve, other than endeavour to be as smugly contentious as possible. Yes, on the face of it the arguments used previously seem contradictory now, but surely this is a preferable use of a vast building in a small community that has the potential to be a massive pivotal force in that community. I would suggest that rather than be ashamed of your fellow residents for voicing their opinions you should be grateful for their hard work in preventing what would have a serious misuse of the Ocean Hotel. Which given how they were accused if not openly, of being right wing racists was in retrospect very brave. Certainly more courageous than, 4 years later trying to painting yourself as a liberal minded, philanthropist without the high stakes of the day. If either Grit or Stephen were outspoken supporters of the scheme at the time and offered their own homes to the asylum seekers then you are entitled to make these comments, if not then shut up and be at least secretly grateful that Saltdean is still the middle class heaven that encourages this type of idle debate rather than another Hastings. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Author: anon [Edit]	Date Posted: 08:51:53 03/25/07 Sun Ou est Grit ??????? At least the man can keep a dignified silence when he knows he's been shown up well & truly. Till the next time.

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Author: Joe [Edit]	Date Posted: 02:45:35 03/26/07 Mon Great debate! I always wanted to hear both sides, without threats.. Thanks!

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Author: Grit [Edit]

Date Posted: 12:01:34 04/28/07 Sat 'If either Grit or Stephen were outspoken supporters of the scheme at the time and offered their own homes to the asylum seekers then you are entitled to make these comments, if not then shut up and be at least secretly grateful that Saltdean is still the middle class heaven that encourages this type of idle debate rather than another Hastings.' This is breathtaking stuff from Kingston. So a disabled wheelchair bound person living in a local care home cannot hold and express an opinion on the views held by him and his ilk, simply because of an inability to offer accommodation to an asylum seeker... No one has suggested that local residents are not or were not entitled to hold and voice their strongly held opinions. (Kingston, though is not quite so generous in the extract above, as the opinions of those who differ from his must fulfil certain conditions). Perhaps Kingston could read again what has actually been written. It was the given basis for those opinions that has been questioned, as the overload on local resources will be greater now than it was years ago. So far there's been no coherent response. Though, looking at some other threads on this message board I'm not surprised. In my book, Stephen's points are still valid.

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Author: LePen [Edit]

Date Posted: 07:53:44 04/29/07 Sun Asylum seekers my arse! What about asking our government to stop supporting dictators and only provide opportunities for the ones that have worked hard in their own country. We should not be here to welcome evry dick tom and harry who fancy coming to england because there is easy money to be made. One very important thing british people must remember, our ancestors did not defend our freedom for us to feel guilty about it . . . stop acting like politically correct lemmings!

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Author: Grit [Edit]	Date Posted: 08:12:44 04/29/07 Sun Which dictators?