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Subject: If Yale fires Reno....


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YALE OL
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Date Posted: 12:26:45 11/14/16 Mon

When do they drop the ax? Sunday after the game? Doesn't the football team have a formal dinner on that day?
Does he stick around through Thanksgiving?
Just curious of what people are thinking

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[> Subject: Fire in the hole


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holtsledge
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Date Posted: 16:23:55 11/14/16 Mon

boom goes the program, a wildfire sweeps across campus creating a firestorm of epic proportions. Even in the bowels of the university there is a fire down below. A public execution by firing squad is televised on the internet. Ignoring traditional advice from General Putnam some people are even firing before they see the whites of their eyes (which might be cause of Van Jones whitewash)

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[> [> Subject: I forgot


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holtsledge
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Date Posted: 15:59:47 11/16/16 Wed

probably the most yalecentric show The great William F Buckely Jr's 'Firing Line'. I guess by now Prez elect Trump would say to Reno "You're fired"

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[> [> [> Subject: Trump would say something like this:


Author:
Son of Eli
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Date Posted: 16:49:09 11/16/16 Wed

"Tony, you were given all the resources a competent coach would need to be successful. You had some of the best recruiting classes not only in the league, but in all of the FCS Division. You were allowed to hire all of the coaches you wanted. Yet, these highly touted recruits have shown little development during your tenure. Many players spend extended periods of time injured or they quit the team all together. You have underperformed and brought shame to the program with numerous losses of an historic magnitude. You have refused to accept responsibility for your losing record and instead make tired excuses of the team being injured or young and you try to hide the poor condition of the program by cancelling the Blue-White game and closing the fall scrimmage to the fans. Tony... you're fired. That is, unless you finally beat Harvard Saturday."

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[> [> [> [> Subject: the two tonys


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holtsledge
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Date Posted: 11:27:46 11/17/16 Thu

Reno and Romo not looking good in the off season

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: the two renos


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voy vey
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Date Posted: 16:07:02 11/17/16 Thu

Janet, either, for that matter.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: One of these things is not like the other


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Calvin
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Date Posted: 16:12:45 11/17/16 Thu

Romo will still get paid a lot of money, by the Cowboys or someone else.

Tony (and Janet), not so much.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: One of these things is not like the other


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 16:45:34 11/17/16 Thu

No need to cry for Tony Romo. Jerry loves him and will probably let him pick the team to which he is traded. In a quarterback-starved league, Romo will be able to choose a team which has a strong offensive line to protect his back and collarbone as well as a couple of go-to receivers.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Trump would say something like this:


Author:
Yale FB Dad
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Date Posted: 16:37:18 11/17/16 Thu

A win against Harvard cannot save Reno's dismal overall performance for the past 5 years. He has to go regardless of Saturday's outcome because I don't believe that he's a competent head coach or even has the ability to eventually become one. His 5 years are up and it's time to move on to a proven commodity, and this time please don't spare any expense to land the right man for the job.

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[> Subject: Re: If Yale fires Reno....


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Old blue
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Date Posted: 16:31:23 11/14/16 Mon

Gentlemen; Regrettably the Tom toms do not proclaim the demise of mr Reno hope the smoke signals after the cantab contest are deferent.

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[> Subject: Re: If Yale fires Reno....


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Al's Wingman
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Date Posted: 18:43:09 11/14/16 Mon

If the decision has already been made then it will be next week or earlier. If there is hemming and hawaing then it has to be before the December holidays, definitely before the new year.

Traditionally, in college football you do such things quickly and backfill almost immediately to not lose traction with recruiting. Ivy is a bit different so they might eject Reno and appoint someone on staff as interim HC until they go through the hiring process.

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[> Subject: Re: If Yale fires Reno....


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Bulldogs1234
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Date Posted: 00:46:39 11/15/16 Tue

Can't imagine he loses the job if he beats Harvard.

Since he 96% chance will not defeat Harvard, we should do so right after The Game.

If there is one small advantage to ending the season earlier than other teams, it's that we get a head start in the coaching search.

I'm sure he's a great guy, and I feel for his situation, but it's just how this business works.

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[> [> Subject: Re: If Yale fires Reno....


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Bad guy
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Date Posted: 08:10:19 11/15/16 Tue

You couldn't be more off. Reno is a bad person and deserves to be fired. Treats the players like animals, smug to parents and media, thinks he's Nick Saban. I can't wait till reality hits him in the face.

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[> Subject: Re: If Yale fires Reno....


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FU Alum
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Date Posted: 10:30:53 11/15/16 Tue

Makes you wonder about the competency of the hiring and vetting process.

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[> [> Subject: Re: If Yale fires Reno....


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Anonymous
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Date Posted: 11:02:35 11/15/16 Tue

The whole process starting with the dismissal of Tom Williams was a joke. Instead of firing Williams for poor performance, they claimed it was due to him lying about being a Rhodes Scholar candidate (something they should have vetted from Day 1).

I have a feeling Reno will last one more year simply due to Beckett's inability to hire and vet a football coach.

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[> [> [> Subject: They weren't going to fire Williams for poor performance


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 11:11:11 11/15/16 Tue


He was slightly over .500 in three seasons.

You don't get fired for that in the Ivy.

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[> [> [> Subject: Siedlecki was .597 over 12 seasons with two co-championships


Author:
remember it well
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Date Posted: 12:07:24 11/15/16 Tue

Hate to keep repeating this. Jack was the one of Yale's most successful coaches and my previous posts show he has a record better than most current Ivy coaches. If Reno beats Harvard and stays as coach it will show how heavily weighted the "beat Harvard" is in Yale's football team slogan "beat Harvard and win the Ivy championship." Siedlecki beat Harvard 4 times including three in a row beginning his second season. His record was 8-2, 9-1, 6-4 his last three seasons. Reno is 8-2, 6-4 and either 2-8 or 3-7 and no wins against Harvard in his first four years as HC.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Siedlecki was .597 over 12 seasons with two co-championships


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Yale Faithful
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Date Posted: 13:03:00 11/15/16 Tue

Reno is a disaster. He has not put a competitive defense on the field in 5 years. What makes you think in year 6 that is happening. What makes you think Joe Conlin can put a functioning offense on the field. He is a worthless and pathetic coach that hit the lottery with Varga. They are in a tailspin and headed face first off a bridge. The players have quit.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Siedlecki was .597 over 12 seasons with two co-championships


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remember it well
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Date Posted: 13:29:27 11/15/16 Tue

Read more carefully I'm not defending Reno - rather I am trying to show if there is some correlation between what criteria Beckett used in the past to fire an HC (Siedlecki) and what he might use now; more relevant to this Saturday, how much of his decision rests on "The Game" as compared with the rest of Reno's record. Here's my take - if Reno beats Harvard and Beckett keeps him on as HC then it was unfair for him to have fired Jack. If Yale loses to Harvard and Beckett keeps Reno on then it was even more unfair to have fired Jack.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Siedlecki was .597 over 12 seasons with two co-championships


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bulldog10jw
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Date Posted: 13:26:20 11/15/16 Tue

The problem with Jack was, that 8-2 should have been 9-1 with an outright championship.

The 9-1 included a complete meltdown in the biggest game of his tenure.

I said the same thing about him that I did about Cozza. Jack LOST more games he should have won as opposed to winning games he should have lost.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Siedlecki was .597 over 12 seasons with two co-championships


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remember it well
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Date Posted: 13:59:35 11/15/16 Tue

Believe me I was not happy with that 8-2 season either and of course there were games that in retrospect might have been won if he had prepared better, made better adjustments at halftime, called a different play etc. but how many current Ivy coaches (I provided the records on a previous thread) have had a better record besides the fellow over in Cambridge.
My main reason for focusing on Jack's record is the need to inject reality into the expectations of finding a coach that will do remarkably better than Jack since presumably that was Beckett's intent when he fired him. Well he hasn't found one yet and how optimistic can we be that will happen unless Yale admins are willing to liberate themselves from the Ivy formula for mediocrity beginning with coaching salaries. It all starts from there and to think otherwise is only going to lead to the same results. Why would a gifted hc coach with a proven track record come to Yale without the financial draw. So that leaves us with the search for assistant coaches that might become a gifted
hc - "deja vu all over again" and most likely that's where Yale will be after Saturday's game.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Do you really think Reno will be fired?


Author:
bulldog10jw
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Date Posted: 14:19:27 11/15/16 Tue

I don't

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: What's the case for keeping him?


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 14:39:59 11/15/16 Tue


Unlike Teevens, he hasn't won a championship recently and/or doesn't have the faithful counting the days until next season.

Unlike Bagnoli, he isn't in year 2 taking over a historically bad program.

Unlike Estes, he doesn't have a bunch of winning seasons on his resume.

Unlike Archer, he hasn't shown noticeable improvement in 2016.

So...

?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: What's the case for keeping him?


Author:
bulldog10jw
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Date Posted: 14:45:45 11/15/16 Tue

2014 - 8-2
2015 - 6-4

Yale "usually" does not fire a coach for a losing season after two winning ones unless there are extenuating circumstances.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: What's the case for keeping him?


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Al's Wingman
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Date Posted: 14:55:09 11/15/16 Tue

Then he needs to find another Morgan Roberts and Tyler Varga to disguise everything else that is ineffective in the program.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: What's the case for keeping him?


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bulldog10jw
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Date Posted: 14:56:41 11/15/16 Tue

I'm not saying they should keep him, I'm saying the odds are that they will keep him.

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[> Subject: Re: If Yale fires Reno....


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FU Alum
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Date Posted: 17:14:43 11/15/16 Tue

Question for the Yale guys -- if Reno is released as coach, does the AD have a solid network of contacts in the coaching community to call on to give him thoughts?

It's really not that big a universe, there is generally some consensus at all levels on who the BS'ers are, who the rock stars are, who are the coordinators who are ready to lead programs, etc.

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[> [> Subject: Re:How to get quality candidates


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Al's Wingman
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Date Posted: 13:28:06 11/16/16 Wed

They can go the route of referrals within earshot or they can take a step back and re-assess the needs of the program and the position. Hire a consultant and listen to the feedback of the student athletes.

If the salary is not as competitive as it needs to be to get quality coaches in there, re-assess that too.

if they have budget for it, hire a search firm who specialize in this type of thing such as http://eastman-beaudine.com. Get a short list together and make an offer.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re:How to get quality candidates


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don't care
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Date Posted: 17:20:03 11/17/16 Thu

Reno needs to go in order for this program to be relevant again. If that means sacrifice this years recruiting class so be it.

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