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Subject: Re: Ivies in the FCS Playoffs


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Gp
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Date Posted: 19:53:25 12/10/16 Sat
In reply to: Al's Wingman 's message, "Ivies in the FCS Playoffs" on 02:54:57 12/07/16 Wed

The playoffs are not for the fans. The playoffs are for the players to measure themselves. If you don't understand this, it is hard to believe that you were ever an athlete of any worth.

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[> [> [> Subject: Oh come on ....


Author:
Observer
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Date Posted: 21:43:40 12/10/16 Sat

Who needs to "measure themself" against Northeast South Dakota State in order to prove their worth?

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Oh come on ....


Author:
Al's Wingman
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Date Posted: 03:28:37 12/11/16 Sun

Observer, you should take a glance at the Dakota programs. They are powerhouses. North Dakota State is so good they beat every FBS team they play. South Dakota State (the Jackrabbits) are entertaining as well. They all put up big numbers. They even get good ESPN ratings.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: But...


Author:
Al's Wingman
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Date Posted: 03:31:49 12/11/16 Sun

It looks like the South Dakota Coyotes had a better season this year than the Jackrabbits.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Alas


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Calvin
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Date Posted: 09:12:08 12/11/16 Sun

Demonstrated excellence against quality opppnents has never been Big 0's concern.

Rather, the only pertinent test is whether a location is worthy of receiving his presence.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Oh come on ....


Author:
remember it well
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Date Posted: 12:53:39 12/11/16 Sun

His other pertinent test is the convenience of getting to the bathrooms and the width of the sidelines.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Some factors outweigh others


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Observer
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Date Posted: 14:09:57 12/11/16 Sun

Most Ivy fans wouldn't book a trip to Northeast South Dakota State even IF they had better potties and sightlines that the Yale "Bowl"

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Some factors outweigh others


Author:
remember it well
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Date Posted: 14:16:13 12/11/16 Sun

"even IF" implies you are now using Yale as the gold standard.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: You misunderstand; I assume Northeast South Dakota State may have great potties


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Observer
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Date Posted: 17:29:02 12/11/16 Sun

The point is that even IF Northeast South Dakota State has great potties and sightlines, sane Ivy fans would STILL rather settle for the depressing Yale "Bowl", with all its faults, rather than fly off to the middle of nowhere for a meaningless football game. Comprende?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Some factors outweigh others


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remember it well
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Date Posted: 17:39:12 12/11/16 Sun

Oh yes, of course, how could I have possibly missed that as your point.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Ivies in the FCS Playoffs


Author:
Al's Wingman
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Date Posted: 01:50:15 12/14/16 Wed

There is nothing to be gained by a trip to the Dakotas in winter. Fans could watch it on some form of television coverage. The players however, would love the experience.

But as I have pointed out, the likelihood of playing a Dakota team in the first round would be unlikely. It would be a manageable game to get to. ...and despite the curmudgeon opinions to the contrary, a fine way for the players to wrap up the season.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Ivies in the FCS Playoffs / I can't understand why...


Author:
voy vey
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Date Posted: 09:10:25 12/14/16 Wed

...the seemingly-simple solution hasn't been instituted:

Make Ivy participation in the playoffs optional.

Each year, by a certain date, each institution must declare whether or not they would accept a playoff bid, should one be extended. One vote per school, handled as they see fit (presumably hierarchical, with players, coaches, AD and President, in ascending order, voting yay or nay).

Those who choose not to participate, don't have to. Those who would like to, can.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Breathtakingly simple, but


Author:
Calvin
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Date Posted: 10:05:29 12/14/16 Wed

we all know why it won't be adopted. It means loss of control.

Plus Harvard could claim that this approach undermines their recruiting when players know they, alone, won't be going to any playoffs, and is contrary to the ivy agreement to have a level playing field. Now I know that is akin to arguing you cannot be penalized for your own blockheadedness, but it's not like we haven't seen this attitude before.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Breathtakingly simple, but


Author:
Eastern Sports Fan
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Date Posted: 16:37:27 12/14/16 Wed

Suspect Walter Camp and Percy Haughton would have made a deal where the loser of The Game had to go to Montana for post-season to annually fight descendants of Sitting Bull. Makes sense; Custer had a company commander named Reno.

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