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Subject: Re: Among "Maryland's Best and Brightest"


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Ivy Patriot
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Date Posted: 07:48:23 12/12/16 Mon
In reply to: Observer 's message, "Among "Maryland's Best and Brightest"" on 14:44:17 12/09/16 Fri

You would think someone who runs a 4.3-anything, let alone a sub-4.3 is going to have a very impressive list of big-time offers. I'm not disputing he's fast, but the only offers listed by 247Sports are by Ivy League schools.

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Observer
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Date Posted: 08:35:36 12/12/16 Mon

Its one thing to be fast. Then you have to have size and football skills in adequate measure..

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[> [> [> Subject: So you're saying


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 09:44:03 12/12/16 Mon


That this guy can't play?

That's an odd thing to say about your own recruits.

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[> [> [> Subject: Also...


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 09:45:25 12/12/16 Mon


How many offers from D-III schools did he have?

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remember it well
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Date Posted: 09:55:19 12/12/16 Mon

Don't forget he has called the FCS schools"pathetic"so perhaps there is some consistency in the way he views the recruits at those schools - even his own.

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Calvin
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Date Posted: 10:18:50 12/12/16 Mon

One could ask why he didn't pursue/wasn't offered a track scholarship at a big time track college, given that he's apparently so ill suited to college football.

Dri Archer (5'8", 175) received only one football scholarship (Kent State) but several major track offers. Then again, he was a legitimate 4.26 and finished second in the highly competitive Florida high school track championship.

The real risk is that a small and frail player will be injured most of his college career, regardless of what speed he runs on the rare healthy occasions. I hope he attends to his studies.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Do you dump on the NFL combine electronic timing, too?


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Observer
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Date Posted: 16:40:56 12/12/16 Mon

Records at the NFL Scouting Combine

This is a list of the official 40-yard dash results of 4.30 seconds or better recorded at the NFL Scouting combine since 1999, the first year electronic timing was implemented at the NFL Scouting Combine.[11][12]

Time Name Height Weight Position College Year Draft
4.24 Rondel Menendez 5 ft 9 in (175 cm) 192 lb (87 kg) Wide receiver Eastern Kentucky 1999 #247 overall by Atlanta Falcons

4.24 Chris Johnson 5 ft 11 in (180 cm) 192 lb (87 kg) Running back East Carolina 2008 #24 overall by Tennessee Titans

4.26 Jerome Mathis 5 ft 11 in (180 cm) 184 lb (83 kg) Wide receiver Hampton 2005 #114 overall by Houston Texans

4.26 Dri Archer 5 ft 8 in (173 cm) 173 lb (78 kg) Running back Kent State 2014 #97 overall by Pittsburgh Steelers

4.27 Stanford Routt 6 ft 2 in (188 cm) 193 lb (88 kg) Cornerback Houston 2005 #38 overall by Oakland Raiders

4.27 Marquise Goodwin 5 ft 10 in (178 cm) 181 lb (82 kg) Wide receiver Texas 2013 #78 overall by Buffalo Bills

4.28 Champ Bailey 6 ft 0 in (183 cm) 192 lb (87 kg) Cornerback Georgia 1999 #7 overall by Washington Redskins

4.28 Jacoby Ford 5 ft 9 in (175 cm) 190 lb (86 kg) Wide receiver Clemson 2010 #108 overall by Oakland Raiders

4.28[13] J. J. Nelson 5 ft 10 in (178 cm) 156 lb (71 kg) Wide receiver UAB 2015 #159 overall by Arizona Cardinals

4.28 DeMarcus Van Dyke 6 ft 1 in (185 cm) 187 lb (85 kg) Cornerback Miami 2011 #81 overall by Oakland Raiders

4.29 Fabian Washington 5 ft 11 in (180 cm) 188 lb (85 kg) Cornerback Nebraska 2005 #23 overall by Oakland Raiders

4.29 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie 6 ft 2 in (188 cm) 184 lb (83 kg) Cornerback Tennessee State 2008 #16 overall by the Arizona Cardinals

4.29 Josh Robinson 5 ft 10 in (178 cm) 199 lb (90 kg) Cornerback UCF 2012 #66 overall by Minnesota Vikings

4.30 Darrent Williams 5 ft 9 in (175 cm) 176 lb (80 kg) Cornerback Oklahoma State 2005 #56 overall by Denver Broncos

4.30 Tye Hill 5 ft 10 in (178 cm) 185 lb (84 kg) Cornerback Clemson 2006 #15 overall by St. Louis Rams

4.30 Yamon Figurs 5 ft 11 in (180 cm) 174 lb (79 kg) Wide receiver Kansas State 2007 #74 overall by Baltimore Ravens

4.30 Darrius Heyward-Bey[14] 6 ft 2 in (188 cm) 210 lb (95 kg) Wide receiver Maryland 2009 #7 overall by Oakland Raiders

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Author:
Diogenes (Observer)
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Date Posted: 18:16:19 12/12/16 Mon

Thanks for that list. Looks like roughly 17 people in 17 years at 4.30 or less. Wonder what they could run near the end of their careers?

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Has it occurred to you ...


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Ivy Patriot
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Date Posted: 09:46:28 12/13/16 Tue

If you are sub 4.3 you are going to be recruited if you know how many points a touchdown is worth. It's like being 7 foot 2 in basketball. If you can run from one baseline to another you are going to be recruited. When no big schools are recruiting a sub 4.3 there's something amiss.

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