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Subject: Re: P men's swimming season suspended

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Date Posted: 10:29:52 12/16/16 Fri
In reply to: Bengal 's message, "Re: P men's swimming season suspended" on 10:06:38 12/16/16 Fri

Yes, Foehi and those of his mind, let us know what you think about political correctness and free speech if and when your daughter is publicly shamed by name on these sites by disgusting descriptions of her or when your son is targeted by name for his race with slurs. Having the right to say something does not make it OK to say it. And while free speech is free speech, targeting individuals and - one could argue - putting women in danger (of sexual assault or rape)by the character of your banter is never OK. It sets up an atmosphere where bad things can and do happen. This behavior needs to be stopped cold and the fact that a number of Ivy schools are doing that by setting standards about what civilized people do and suspending and investigating and possibly punishing when appropriate is to their credit. This is not about this or that school. This is about us all. This is about educating good but thoughtless young men to what is the right thing.You don't cheat. You don't lie. You don't set up an atmosphere where dangerous things are more likely to happen. And you don't target, disparage or demean others. Those are our values, take them or leave them.

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Date Posted: 10:31:29 12/16/16 Fri

Thanks. You made the First Amendment point in an earlier thread, credit to you, but it bears repeating.

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remember it well
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Date Posted: 11:16:22 12/16/16 Fri

In the dawn of a new era of "anti political correctness" as epitomized by a significant portion of the electorate more than willing to over look vulgar/misogynistic remarks of a presidential candidate; shouldn't the Ivy admins at least question whether stupid remarks by young men who ought to have known better deserves season suspension. Perhaps reprimand without suspending the season would have been more appropriate.

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