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Subject: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job


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Harvard Crimson Rule!
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Date Posted: 20:00:28 12/31/16 Sat

Source tells FootballScoop, Princeton offensive coordinator James Perry is expected to accept the head coaching position at Bryant University.

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job


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Brownie
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Date Posted: 21:49:26 12/31/16 Sat

Good career advancement, I'm happy for him.

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job


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Upper Valley
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Date Posted: 22:42:48 12/31/16 Sat

This was only a matter of time. I figured that Perry might want to stay one more year because he's got Lovett coming back and perhaps Kanoff as well. But in his line of work, you've got to take the jobs when they open, not necessarily when you want to move.

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 09:22:41 01/01/17 Sun


Guys on the AGS Board were never clear on why Bryant's previous coach left.

But best of luck to Perry.

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job


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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 11:45:06 01/01/17 Sun

A key inflection point for Surace -- given his offensive strategy, transition to the next OC is important to see if he's going to continue to slug it out with Murphy, or just become a 6-4 coach like Hughes.

I'd be amazed if Perry didn't succeed emphatically.

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[> [> Subject: No idea about Bryant's personnel, but


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 11:58:35 01/01/17 Sun


If Perry wants to implement the Princeton offense immediately, you can expect a few awful years at Bryant until he gets the correct personnel.

Surace's first two years at Princeton were not pretty (to be charitable).

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job


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Tiger81
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Date Posted: 12:22:22 01/01/17 Sun

Best of luck to Coach Perry at Bryant, he made a huge dontribution to the two Ivy titles that the Tigers have won over the past 4 years. I agree that it will be a challenge for Coach Surace to maintain the performance level that has been established; elite head coaches can absorb new coordinators and not lose momentum and I hope he can do that.

It will be interesting to see who is hired as the new OC. It should be an attractive opportunity given the talent that will be returning and the foundation of fast, physical and innovative football that has been put in place.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job


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Old Tiger
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Date Posted: 12:47:59 01/01/17 Sun

Don't be surprised if a few PU assistants go with him in coordinator roles at Bryant.

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[> Subject: Training Wheels For Next Good Ivy Job


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Diogenes
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Date Posted: 13:22:21 01/01/17 Sun

Assemble a good staff, learn the job, develop the skills of a head coach.

He made a great contribution to the IL. Best wishes for much success.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Training Wheels For Next Good Ivy Job


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HDallmar
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Date Posted: 14:05:30 01/01/17 Sun

Surace might promote Aurich to OC.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Training Wheels For Next Good Ivy Job


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Diogenes
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Date Posted: 14:12:48 01/01/17 Sun

Great choice. Let the big dogs eat!

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job


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Sprint66
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Date Posted: 15:57:44 01/01/17 Sun

Too bad the team isn't going with him.........only kidding after getting throttled by the Tigers 56-7. That guy knows how to coach offense.

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job


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sparman
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Date Posted: 17:05:32 01/01/17 Sun

Perry did a great job, no question he was eventually going to move on, just a matter of when.

But given that, I expect Surace has had a Plan B in mind for a while.

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job


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Sr Punter
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Date Posted: 19:53:23 01/01/17 Sun

Back to RI and NE for James. On the one hand I'm surprised, I thought he might have higher aspirations. On the other hand, if Brown continues to schedule Bryant, I'm a little concerned. Good for him!

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[> [> Subject: Re: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 11:39:50 01/02/17 Mon


Dartmouth has had assistant coaches leave to become head coaches at D-III programs.

If you want to be a captain of a big ship, sometimes becoming a captain of a dinghy is better than remaining a first officer.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job


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Calvin
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Date Posted: 14:47:25 01/02/17 Mon

Brown beat Bryant by 7, and Brown beat Dartmouth by 3, so I guess in this analogy Dartmouth is a rowboat.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Dartmouth would have killed Bryant


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 16:06:16 01/02/17 Mon


We showed up for the OOC games last season.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: This is hilarious


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Calvin
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Date Posted: 18:01:40 01/02/17 Mon

You're the one who always cites Sagarin as an authoritative source.

Per Sagarin:

Bryant 197
Dartmouth 207

Thanks for playing.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Do it just for OOC games


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 18:18:48 01/02/17 Mon


Dartmouth is probably in the single digits then.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I can understand


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Calvin
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Date Posted: 09:34:10 01/03/17 Tue

why you wish to exclude evidence you don't like, but this isn't a courtroom, and unfortunately for Dartmouth they did actually play the games you want to pretend they didn't.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Never said we didn't play the league games


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 10:25:56 01/03/17 Tue


I'm saying we were Superman in OOC games.

We were Clark Kent (Christopher Reeve version) in Ivy games.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: You are trying to ignore their consequences


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Calvin
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Date Posted: 10:51:04 01/03/17 Tue

Sagarin does not weigh league games more or less than OOC games.

Stop trying to play lawyer and, since you consider Sagarin the ultimate authority, accept what it tells you.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Do it just for OOC games


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Down East
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Date Posted: 15:02:35 01/03/17 Tue

When we only play ten lousy games a season, further reducing the sample size to three is laughable. Although I'd love it if just once, Dartmouth would "be Superman" against Harvard.

I'd accept a sample size of one if the sample were Harvard.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: It's coming


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 08:38:10 01/04/17 Wed


We lost to Harvard the past two seasons because #1 dropped a long pass that would have been an easy touchdown.

We're bringing back a lot of guys, and apparently have a potential upgrade at QB--a position I didn't think we were all that bad to begin with. If we just freaking execute, we should be able to beat Harvard next season.

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[> Subject: Haven't seen any further confirmation?


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Old Tiger
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Date Posted: 17:05:54 01/02/17 Mon


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[> [> Subject: Re: Haven't seen any further confirmation?


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tigertown
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Date Posted: 10:48:28 01/03/17 Tue

Bryant 1:00 Press Conference today

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[> Subject: It's official. James Perry the HC at Bryant!


Author:
Harvard Crimson Rule!
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Date Posted: 13:04:21 01/03/17 Tue

http://www.bryantbulldogs.com/sports/fball/2016-17/releases/20170103iek4o4

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[> [> Subject: What assistants will follow him...


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Harvard Crimson Rule!
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Date Posted: 17:54:04 01/03/17 Tue

That's bound to happen if Perry offers them promotions such as OC or DC jobs.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: What assistants will follow him...


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Penn Nation
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Date Posted: 21:50:28 01/03/17 Tue

I'd be surprised if at least one or two didn't follow Perry to Bryant.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Any Princeton Assistants Going With Perry?


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 14:50:13 01/12/17 Thu

I'd be very curious whether any other Princeton assistant coaches leave for Bryant with Perry.

That's a big decision for any assistant coach. They would be taking a very calculated risk in an insecure and uncertain business with a peripatetic career path. Surace will be settled in at Princeton for at least a few more years, assuming that he wants to stay. He seems to be on the doorstep of establishing the Tigers as a regular championship contender.

I don't know enough about Bryant to know what the prospects are for Perry to win there, even though I think his personal skills are excellent and manifest. But it takes a lot to win anywhere.

Being a college football coach is a tough lifestyle for men who are generally organized, disciplined, hard-working and self-directed. I assume that most of these guys could be making at least low- to mid-six figures in the corporate world. The decision to leave the apparent security and stability of Princeton for something else, better or worse, is a very interesting window into the difficult decisions that these guys need to make repeatedly over the course of a multi-decade career.

I though it was revealing that Reno was able to bring so many of his Harvard colleagues to Yale. Now, that's from one Ivy to another but, again, Harvard is established and secure. Murphy isn't going anywhere and he's got the machine up and running. I have to assume that he's no picnic to work for, given that so many guys wanted out of the Murr Center and the franchise Murphy has built.

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[> Subject: Surprised Marty Fine Resigned


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Al's Wingman
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Date Posted: 02:27:49 01/04/17 Wed

Bryant is taking football seriously if Marty Fine was led to resign. He is an excellent coach and held the post for 13 years record of 71-45. I don't think Fine would have resigned without some pressure.

Back to back 5-6 seasons though apparently was not good enough. Perry will not be afforded many losing seasons if the same pattern holds true.

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[> [> Subject: Agreed


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 08:19:33 01/04/17 Wed


This doesn't appear terribly different from the situation Surace was in when he took over Princeton.

We will see if Perry can get off to a better start than his old boss.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Agreed


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Tiger81
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Date Posted: 08:51:18 01/04/17 Wed

Coach Perry and the Bryant AD will no doubt be ecstatic if he can produce a championship within 4 years, which is what his old boss accomplished.

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job - successor named


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Tiger81
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Date Posted: 06:06:43 01/11/17 Wed

Sean Gleeson, Princeton's RBs coach and former QB who played for Coach Perry at a Williams, is the new Tiger OC/QB coach and his first comment was a promise to continue "playing fast." Good choice!

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[> [> Subject: For Whom Does Perry Cheer Now?


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Brown Fan
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Date Posted: 12:28:31 01/12/17 Thu

Glad to see the greatest QB in Brown history (Ivy history?) get a shot at a hc job. His days at Brown are the finest in my football memory, particularly his heroics in defeating Penn 58-51 in 1998 (not to mention the 1999 championship).

The (minor) question now is: does Perry now cheer for Brown or Princeton when they play each other? If I were Perry, I'd take the proverbial Fifth in responding to such a question, but that doesn't mean we can't speculate....

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[> [> [> Subject: Ask John Lyons


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 13:39:21 01/12/17 Thu


If he roots for Dartmouth or Penn.

The guess here is Penn.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: For Whom Does Perry Cheer Now?


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sparman
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Date Posted: 20:03:16 01/12/17 Thu

I imagine he will continue to cheer the players he recruited/worked with, then gradually revert to alma mater, don't you think?

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[> [> Subject: Re: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job - successor named


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Tiger81
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Date Posted: 10:52:20 01/28/17 Sat

James Perry has hired Kevin Kelly, former Georgetown HC, as his DC and Vinny Marino from Davidson as his OC. His quality control coach at Princeton, Erik Bunker, is his RB coach but no other assistants have left the Tiger coaching staff to join Coach Perry at Bryant.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job - successor named


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sparman
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Date Posted: 11:04:37 01/28/17 Sat

Kelly was well regarded as an energetic coach at Georgetown who managed to overcome, to some extent, the limitations of that program. That should be a good hire by Perry.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Princeton OC leaving for Bryant HC job - successor named


Author:
voy vey
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Date Posted: 11:42:57 01/28/17 Sat

Kelly was a candidate for the Yale head job when Reno was hired.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Marty Fine's new gig


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Al's Wingman
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Date Posted: 18:37:26 01/28/17 Sat

If anyone is interested, Marty Fine is now the head coach of New Mexico Highlands University, a DII football program.

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