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Subject: The Best


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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 15:34:50 01/07/17 Sat

Princeton senior goalie Ashleigh Johnson has, for the second straight year, been named the best women's water polo player in the world.

http://www.goprincetontigers.com/news/2017/1/4/ashleigh-johnson-named-swimming-world-magazines-womens-water-polo-player-of-the-year.aspx

When you throw in her Olympic gold medal and a second world championship, this brings her to a level that I'm not sure has ever been achieved by an Ivy athlete in a team sport while still an undergraduate.

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[> Subject: Re: The Best


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Diogenes
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Date Posted: 17:53:28 01/07/17 Sat

A magnificent achievement. Water polo is a very tough sport. Someone described it as being like hockey if you couldn't come off the ice.

Yale's Don Schollander won four gold medals at the 1964 Olympics, more than any other athlete, and received the Sullivan Award as the best amateur athlete in the U.S.

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[> [> Subject: Gehrig's teammate was a Dartmouth grad named Red Rolfe


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Diogenes (IvySportsJunkie)
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Date Posted: 22:24:40 01/07/17 Sat

Rolfe was the Yankees' third baseman during the 1930's and Dartmouth's A.D. from 1954 until his death in 1969. He was the man who hired Bob Blackman.

Rolfe prepped at Exeter and was Yale's baseball and basketball coach after he left the Yankees.

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[> Subject: Re: The Best


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IvySportsJunkie
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Date Posted: 19:10:35 01/07/17 Sat

Don Schollander is probably the best choice.

However, Lou Gehrig also was a legend in baseball by his sophomore year at Columbia. During his sophomore year, had a .444 batting average. When he pitched at Yankee stadium, he amazed the Yankees head scout when he struck out 17 batters. “Columbia Lou” was soon signed and he was immediately pulled up to the Yankees team at the age of 19. He played 17 seasons with the Yankees before he sadly got ALS. He is known as one of the best MLB players ever and the best Ivy baseball player ever.

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[> [> Subject: Re: The Best


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Diogenes
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Date Posted: 22:26:45 01/07/17 Sat

Sorry, clicked on wrong link and wrote hurriedly.

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[> [> Subject: Re: The Best


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YAGreen
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Date Posted: 10:39:58 01/08/17 Sun

Gehrig was probably the greatest Ivy athlete ever, although he had the advantage of being able to play at a high professional level unavailable in many sports.

Certainly the greatest Ivy athlete in any of the high profile sports.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: The Best


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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 12:07:39 01/08/17 Sun

I think Hobey Baker deserves a serious discussion if we're going back that far (or farther). He was probably the best hockey player in the world at 18, after playing the game for seven years.

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[> Subject: Re: The Best


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Ivy Voyeur
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Date Posted: 10:51:19 01/08/17 Sun

Christina Teuscher, Columbia swimmer, deserves consideration. 4 NCAA championships, bronze and gold at the Olympics, 12 Ivy championships, never lost an individual race as a collegian, as a senior won the Honda award as best female college swimming/diving athlete, and then the Honda Cup as best overall female collegiate athlete/all sports. Plus Pan Am games medals, etc. etc.

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[> [> Subject: Hobey Baker and Frank Shorter


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Diogenes
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Date Posted: 15:19:02 01/08/17 Sun

Baker is in the College Football Hall of Fame as well as the Hockey Hall of Fame. Is there another Ivy team athlete who is in a hall of fame in more than one team sport? Indeed, is there another person who is in a hall of fame in more than one team sport?

Yale's Frank Shorter won an Olympic gold ('72) and an Olympic silver ('76) in the marathon.

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[> Subject: Midterm Review


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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 13:30:28 01/08/17 Sun

Just to repeat the question, it refers to a player dominating a team sport at the world level while an undergrad. While not slighting the swimmers, that doesn't include them. Gehrig and Baker are intriguing ideas, for example. A non-Ivy example would be Jim Brown in lacrosse.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Midterm Review


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Diogenes
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Date Posted: 15:23:11 01/08/17 Sun

Did it again, sorry--either fat finger or electronic gremlins--probably the former.

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[> [> Subject: The winner . . .


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YAGreen
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Date Posted: 19:07:45 01/08/17 Sun

With those restrictions, it's probably a women's hockey player. I believe Harvard had a two-time Patty Kazmaier award winner, which is the female version of the Hobey Baker award (and like the Hobey is named for a Princetonian). Whoever it was probably also won at least one Olympic gold medal, as a number of Ivy women's hockey players have.

Among the men, I'd probably go with Hobey.

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[> Subject: Myles Lane - Dartmouth


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Bullet
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Date Posted: 16:31:23 01/08/17 Sun

Myles Lane, Dartmouth '28, is in the College Football Hall of Fame and the U.S. Hockey Hall of Fame. He still holds Dartmouth football scoring records and was one of the first Americans to play in the NHL.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Myles Lane - Dartmouth


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Diogenes (Bullet)
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Date Posted: 18:59:39 01/08/17 Sun

The Hockey Hall of Fame, located in Toronto, was founded in 1943. It is open to all players from all countries--Russians, Swedes, Americans, Czechs, Canadians etc. Hobey Baker was inducted into its very first class (1945). According to what I looked at, Myles Lane has not been inducted into The Hockey Hall of Fame.

The United States Hockey Hall of Fame, located on the Iron Range in Eveleth, Minnesota, was founded in 1973. It recognizes contributions to United States Hockey. Myles Lane and Hobey Baker were inducted into its first class (1973).

Two great men and great athletes.

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