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Subject: Ivy Legue Top 25 Commitments


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Anonymous
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Date Posted: 13:08:52 01/31/17 Tue

http://herosports.com/news/fcs-recruiting-ivy-league-top-25-recruits-ivy-league

Yale - 7 Players
Harvard - 6 Players
Penn - 4 Players
Princeton - 3 Players
Dartmouth - 2 Players
Brown - 2 Players
Columbia - 1 Player
Cornell - 1 Player

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[> Subject: interesting


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holtsledge
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Date Posted: 15:23:26 01/31/17 Tue

but absolutely meaningless, however it is nice interesting list. I wonder what is the total numbers of touts on the list

BGA did a story about supposed number one recruit who wasn't even the best player at his position on his team

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[> Subject: Re: Ivy Legue Top 25 Commitments


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The Mountain Lion
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Date Posted: 18:50:07 01/31/17 Tue

Has anyone ever heard of "Hero Sandwich Sports?" Is it part of the Subway franchise chain?

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[> Subject: Re: Ivy Legue Top 25 Commitments


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Son of Eli
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Date Posted: 19:18:14 01/31/17 Tue

For a few years now the Ivy League has been out recruiting the rest of the FCS. With all this talent why isn't the Ivy League allowed equal bowl counter status with other FCS programs which provide athletic scholarships? The NCAA bowl counter rule needs to be changed so the Ivy League can again schedule FBS opponents.

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[> Subject: Re: Ivy Legue Top 25 Commitments


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Sprint66
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Date Posted: 20:40:39 01/31/17 Tue

Cornell grabs "1" recruit off this list and they say our parking garage visitor section is not a factor regarding recruiting???? Do the same thing year in and year out and get the same result. I think in my Cornell computer class it was called GIGO......Garbage In and Garbage Out.

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[> Subject: Re: Ivy Legue Top 25 Commitments


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big29red
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Date Posted: 09:08:15 02/01/17 Wed

Yup- for years now (maybe 10 recruiting has been subpar when compared to the bellwether programs in the Ivy- we are just not getting it done, especially on the D-line! I really don't think the absence of the West stands has anything to do w/ it. The staffs are not getting done!

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[> [> Subject: Re: Ivy Legue Top 25 Commitments


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big29red
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Date Posted: 10:41:01 02/02/17 Thu

I am concerned as well for the future of Cornell Football. I wrote a little blurb in this blog when the new Prez was introduced; I'm sorry, but I really don't think she is going to give a rat's ass about athletics, especially our struggling football program. The CFA is doing all it can to buttress the program and provide more $$, but ultimately the University and the administration need to jump on board and really support it, either by helping w/ the admissions debacle that Cornell is, building a better facility (indoor practice field/West stands reconstruction)), and/or throwing more money towards athletics. I just get the feeling that they really don't care- but you bet your ass they care about gender neutral bathrooms and more humanities buildings springing up on campus.

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[> Subject: Re: Ivy Legue Top 25 Commitments


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Sprint66
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Date Posted: 23:03:56 02/01/17 Wed

big29red I somewhat agree, but tearing down the West Stands and being the only Ivy or Patriot League team with an ugly parking garage as your visitor section doesn't help matters. We haven't had a winning team in over ten years and our stadium looks like a "Dump". Lots of issues with this program but at least that one is a fairly inexpensive one to fix. I'll be quite honest with a new president coming on I don't even know how much longer Cornell will even have a football team? At some point the administration is going to say "Why are we spending so much money on the football program when nobody goes to the games?" It's just reality.

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[> Subject: Re: Ivy Legue Top 25 Commitments


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IvySportsJunkie
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Date Posted: 12:07:26 02/02/17 Thu

The timing may be good for Big Red alumni to provide their feedback on the importance of being more competitive in athletics and working with the Cornell alumni base. Each of the other Ivies have benefitted from recent donations from alumni to support new athletics facilities and/or endow coaching positions.

While athletics may be underfunded, Cornell recently has benefited from some of the nationĺs largest alumni donation in the past three years. Just last week, H. Fisk Johnson has pledged $150 million to Cornellĺs College of Business in what is one of the largest gifts ever given to a business school. The business school will soon open the new 76,000 sq. ft. Breazzano center, which resulted result of David Breazzanoĺs $25 million gift. In 2015, Sandra and Edward Meyer donated $75 million to Cornell to establish a new cancer center. In 2013, Sandy Weill pledged $100 million for the Medical School, which brings his total Cornell donations to over $600 million. Finally in late 2013, Irwin Jacobs donated $133 million to for the new Cornell Tech on Roosevelt Island in New York City.

With some effort from the university development team, it is only a matter of time before one of the Cornell alums steps to the plate to make a similar major donation to support Cornell athletics.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Ivy Legue Top 25 Commitments


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big29red
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Date Posted: 18:20:53 02/02/17 Thu

There are even more donations to the Ithaca campus, via Charles Feeney, bringing the total to over 500 million in the past 3 years. Most going to academic units, financial aid and faculty recruitment and retention. However, none to athletics or athletics facilities, save 1.5 mil to the tennis program just announced.
You are correct, hopefully soon that domino will fall, where that certain alum will step up w/ a major gift to athletics.

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[> Subject: Re: Ivy Legue Top 25 Commitments


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Sprint66
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Date Posted: 23:08:45 02/02/17 Thu

The $150K donation to the College of Business is a huge plus for Cornell as every year the university has more demand from students for business programs. Obviously we all went to Cornell for academics and not athletics. Unfortunately when I return to campus it's usually for an athletic event and we usually go home the losers. Oh well at least the tailgating is good.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Ivy Legue Top 25 Commitments


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big29red
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Date Posted: 08:57:34 02/03/17 Fri

Yes- I played football but chose Cornell not only for the academics, but for the "family' feel of the team and a diverse undergrad population in the early 80's! That wasn't as evident at the other Ivy's sans Penn and Columbia. We need to get back to not going home as "losers"- the University should strive to be as successful and top notch in the athletic program as they do on the academic side!

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[> Subject: Re: Ivy Legue Top 25 Commitments


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Old Lion (Columbia punter)
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Date Posted: 09:43:06 02/03/17 Fri

The incoming Columbia punter who is on this list is the younger brother of the current Harvard punter. Both were top ten ranked punters coming out of HS.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Ivy Legue Top 25 Commitments


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big29red
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Date Posted: 13:32:38 02/03/17 Fri

Feeney's Atlantic Philanthropies has actually donated close to $1B to Cornell over his post grad lifetime! An amazing amount of money, from an extremely amazing man.
Penn has Wharton and HYP, is HYP-but Cornell is in Ithaca and has a tougher road to hoe. We have amazingly strong programs, but need help from the university in order to "sell" Cornell to these athletes. That help comes in the form of more $$, and streamlining the admissions process for recruited athletes.

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[> Subject: Re: Ivy Legue Top 25 Commitments


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IvySportsJunkie
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Date Posted: 11:52:47 02/03/17 Fri

Good catch, big29red. Charles Feeney has donated well over $350 million to support Cornell.

In other threads, it has been pointed out how U Penn uses admissions to the prestigious Wharton School of Business for one-third to half of its prime football and basketball recruits. The new $150 million donation to merged and greatly expanded SC Johnson School of Business opens up the door to potential key advantage in the recruiting process like being used at U Penn.

Click on the below link for interesting insights into Cornellĺs latest major donation and third largest in history of business schools.

http://poetsandquants.com/2017/02/02/cornell-got-150-million-billionaire/

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[> [> Subject: You sound like


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holtsledge
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Date Posted: 15:55:45 02/03/17 Fri

my 6th grade nun Sister Michael Joseph. She was a real stickler for grammar and punctuation, unfortunately I have probably forgotten most of it.

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[> Subject: Re: Ivy Legue Top 25 Commitments


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Boston Lion
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Date Posted: 14:00:20 02/03/17 Fri

Top notch, smotch notch. The Ivy League in 2017 ain't what it used to be. Apologies for being so old school, and at the risk of bringing the house down on my humble head, if a school is really "top notch" on the academic side, it should not fork over its vaunted sheepskins to students until they've learned what every grade schooler used to know, and that is that if you're referring to more than one Ivy League school, it's "Ivies" and not "Ivy's." And I'm ignoring "Legue" which I assume was a typo. Sheesh.

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[> Subject: Time to put up or shut up


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Boston Lion
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Date Posted: 21:12:03 02/03/17 Fri

Well, whoever I sound like, I get tired of all this pompous chest-beating about how the Ivies are such highfalutin academic institutions while we parade our stunning illiteracy here on this board. Time to get better or stop bragging.

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