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Subject: Re: P-H Hoops


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Bcolsonb
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Date Posted: 08:36:33 02/05/17 Sun
In reply to: TigerFan 's message, "P-H Hoops" on 21:02:51 02/04/17 Sat

Your sarcastic message about Harvard's loss at home to a solid Princeton team is not clever, interesting, or well-informed.

Having seen Harv play three times in person [including Friday's Penn game] and other games on the IvyNet, I see nothing terribly surprising in their results.

Despite the return of PG Chambers, the team is immature and plays that way, surrendering large first half leads; you may or may not be able to reel in the leading team during the second half.

Harv's speed and depth wore Penn down and produced a 10-point win-- against a much stronger Prin team that task is tougher.

Harv does not decide which media outlets want interviews. When Prin had Bill Bradley in the 60s there was plenty of understandable national interest and coverage.

Harv may or may not make it to Philly in March- 5 teams seem to be fighting for 4 spots- but two years from now, when these frosh and sophs have more flesh on their bones, you won't have any trouble recognizing that body.

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[> [> Subject: Harvard Freshmen and Sophomores As Upperclassmen


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 11:45:30 02/05/17 Sun

What national media article is being discussed here?

I agree with Bcolsonb. In two years, when Harvard's current freshmen and sophomores are upperclassmen, this will be the most athletic basketball roster in Ivy League history. And that's saying something, given how athletic several of Amaker's recent teams have been.

I can't speak for TigerFan, but I think Bcolsonb's assertion might be what has TigerFan worked up. In 2011, Harvard successfully recruited the highest ranked player in the history of our conference, Zena Edosomwan. His academic qualifications were too poor to clear the minimum AI threshold, so he had to spend a PG year at Northfield Mount Hermon to accumulate some A's on his transcript. To offset the weakness from the lower AI scores of Harvard's best players, Amaker recruited another player from Zena's high school Harvard-Westlake. This second H-W student had SAT scores off the charts but incredibly, he was a player from JV team. That was a gaming of the AI system never before seen in our league.

Now, six years later, Zena is a senior but he is struggling for playing time because the new freshmen and sophomores are that much better. Amaker keeps raising the athleticism on his roster to ever unprecedented heights for an Ivy program. And the fear elsewhere in the conference is that accomplishment comes at the cost of lower academic qualifications. How many other AI boosters from high school JV rosters are being averaged into the Harvard AI to keep the team's mean score above "see level," where what the league "sees" is optically acceptable?

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TigerFan
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Date Posted: 23:15:32 02/07/17 Tue

I know, I know, SI isn't what it used to be.
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2016/07/21/
This is a good locker room article.

Patrick School? Used to be St. Patrick's but couldn't make it. May exist due to its basketball program.

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