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Subject: Re: Columbia practice bubble debuts


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 21:18:22 02/06/17 Mon
In reply to: florida lion 's message, "Re: Columbia practice bubble debuts" on 20:27:50 02/06/17 Mon

Yes, I'm sure that real estate in New York City did not look like a great investment in the early 1990's during the height of the crack epidemic -- if your investment horizon is that of an individual. But if you're a university, you're really betting on New York City over the next century and, either way, Columbia is "all in" on that bet, whether in 1890 or 1990. Columbia should have bought the land.

I know a guy whose brownstone in one of the best parts of Brooklyn was sold to him by the city in the early 1990's for a dollar, with the stipulation that he would live in it. He's still there, renting out each of the units except the one he lives in. I'm guessing that the brownstone is worth $5 million or so, maybe $8 million on the high side. What's the IRR on one dollar?

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Leonidas (Sovern and Cole)
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Date Posted: 00:46:17 02/07/17 Tue

Sovern was president from 1980 to 1993. He took the College co-ed when Barnard wouldn't merge, and with the opening of Shapiro Hall in 1987 he made Columbia College fully residential for all four years for the first time in history, a huge achievement given NY real estate constraints and permitting Columbia to compete for the best students nationally and internationally. Until then Columbia denied housing to 15% or more of the first year class and to most transfer students, which was a huge competitive disadvantage.

Cole was provost from 1989 to 2003 and lead the Enlargement and Enhancement initiative that grew the College and Engineering to their present size. He recognized that Columbia could not be a first rank university without a first rank undergraduate college, and he put together and led the plan that achieved that goal. Thanks to this initiative, Lerner Hall was opened in 1999 and Broadway Hall in 2000, among other successes.

Selling off the land at Baker Field was a mistake as was selling off the Columbia Club in midtown, but only in retrospect. And as mistakes they pale in comparison to what Sovern and Cole accomplished for Columbia College, which was a complete reversal in its fortunes that would not have been possible for small single-sex school with insufficient housing.

In the 47 years since 1970, the nadir for Columbia, we have benefited from the best and most consistent leadership in the Ivy League. The presidents have been extremely long serving and have been very successful expanding Columbia's footprint and improving the campus and neighborhood environment. While Cole always struck me as a bit remote for a leader, his Columbia College legacy is exceptional. And Austin Quigley and James Valentini, who have led the College for 19 of the last 22 years, have also been outstanding institution builders. Let's count our blessings.

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Old Lion (athletics)
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Date Posted: 09:54:46 02/07/17 Tue

My comments about Sovern/Cole were limited to their disastrous stewardship of our athletics programs. The nadir for the university was 1967; but one might say that it was a culmination of inept and incompetent leadership which began in the later years of the Butler administration and was carried through by Grayson Kirk. To me the biggest mistakes athletically were not building the gym in 1963, when it would have been easily accomplished, and in selling off parcels of Baker Field. The latter mistake, of course, is the sole responsibility of Sovern/Cole.

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florida lion
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Date Posted: 13:55:23 02/07/17 Tue

My comments yesterday were a bit confused as I thought we were just talking about Baker Field. Carelessly, I had overlooked Old Lion's post about the 1890's and CU's chance to pick up all the land to the west of the current campus. It'd
be interesting to know what was offered and for how much. If no one has a quick answer, I'll do some research.

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