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Subject: Bad Decisions on The Final Sequence


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 11:11:53 02/07/17 Tue
In reply to: TigerFan 's message, "P-H Hoops" on 21:02:51 02/04/17 Sat

I've had a chance to watch the final few minutes of the H-P game on ESPN3. A couple of thoughts:

Down three points with nine seconds left, Princeton's Myles Stephens passed up an open three-point attempt in favor of driving to the basket. Granted, he had what looked like an open path to the hoop but, with only nine ticks left in the game, I think he's got to take the shot from long-distance. Even a made lay-up leaves you down one with six seconds left. That's not enough time to make a drive superior to an open look for the tie.

Given Stephens' poor decision to drive to the rim with so little time left, there was only one bad option for Harvard: trying to contest the lay-up. And that is exactly what Justin Bassey did, sliding into the restricted area and committing the blocking foul. To me, that shows he's just not aware of the game situation. He was simply reacting, not thinking through a rational act. That's not a good look for the so-called scholar-athletes of the Ivy League.

Next, I noticed that Harvard had Lewis, Bassey and Johnson on the lane for Stephens' free throw attempt. Where was Edosomwan? Zena was the biggest, baddest guy on the floor. Not the most efficient but, for one critical rebound, I would have thought Amaker would choose to pair him with Lewis. As it was, Steven Cook out-jumped all three Harvard players under the basket to grab the rebound. Amazing feat.

Finally, I loved the play Amaker drew up for the final shot after Cook's put back. Corey Johnson had a good, clean look from just outside the arc. But he had jumped toward Lewis to receive the pass and his sideways momentum led to the shot being off target.

Fortunately for Stephens and Bassey, their bad decisions were soon swamped by the bad decisions made by Kyle Shanahan and Dan Quinn the next day. Worst decision-making ever in a Super Bowl. The Falcons deserved to lose.

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[> [> Subject: Short memories


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 11:15:56 02/07/17 Tue


Not to defend the Falcons too much here, but if you're talking about the worst decision in a Super Bowl...

http://mmqb.si.com/2015/02/03/seattle-seahawks-super-bowl-interception

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Short memories


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 11:36:13 02/07/17 Tue

As soon as Sunday's game ended, I texted some Pats fans I know who were celebrating their improbable good fortune with their own text thread.

I compared the Falcons' bad decisions with Pete Carroll's. They're both terrible mistakes, but Shanahan and Quinn made several bad decisions in a row whereas Carroll only made one. That's not to excuse Carroll, but I rate the Falcons' stupidity as more egregious than the Seahawks.

And it's not inconsequential that the Seahawks were the defending Super Bowl champions. I give them credit for getting so close to becoming back-to-back winners. My prediction is that the Falcons will fade back into the pack, haunted by their terrible decision-making when the lights were on bright and the trophy was theirs for the taking with a 40-yard field goal attempt. Like Marshawn Lynch, they had the most reliable guy in the league to convert that attempt.

Do you think Bill Belichick would ever make that mistake? Never.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Bad Decisions on The Final Sequence


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 09:20:35 02/11/17 Sat

Oh, a couple of final thoughts on this improbable sequence: Baker made a terrific length-of-the-court inbounds pass to Lewis, who also make a great play to corral the pass and in one motion get it to Johnson. Amaker drew up an excellent play, his team executed it almost flawlessly and they got a very good shot off.

After Johnson's shot bounced off the rim (straight up, sometimes those go in), most of the Tigers jumped around joyously. If you get a chance to watch any of the many embedded videos on various Ivy websites, keep an eye on Amir Bell, who had been covering Johnson. After the final buzzer, Bell walks off the court casually as if Princeton had just won by 20. There's something to be said for that kind of even-keeled emotional stability. He is one cool customer.

Tonight's game at John J should be a doozy in front of a full house.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Bad Decisions on The Final Sequence


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John Harvard
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Date Posted: 12:01:58 02/11/17 Sat

Amaker won't use Zena to rebound in that situation because Harvard doesn't want Zena taking the foul shots that would come with 6 seconds left if he grabbed the rebound (or maybe even if he didn't). I believe this was a strategic and thoughtful decision.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Bad Decisions on The Final Sequence


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 14:28:08 02/11/17 Sat

That is a very plausible explanation for not using Zena on the Stephens foul shot.

It's a reasonable consideration and you must be correct because it's the only rationale which makes sense. Nevertheless, I still disagree with Amaker's decision because there were only six seconds left. If a rebound is available after a miss, there will only be three or four seconds left after the inevitable scrum.

With that little time left, I would place such a high priority on getting the rebound that I would be willing to tolerate giving the Tigers a final chance with two or three seconds left after Zena misses his free throw. Ironically, it's almost preferable to make Princeton go the length of the court after a defensive rebound on their own end than to let the Tigers inbound the ball with a set play. Harvard might actually prefer to have Zena miss, giving Princeton the rebound down one than have, say, Johnson make two but give Princeton a set play with three seconds left.

Either way, I think you are correct John Harvard. That must have been Amaker's thought process. Although by the same reasoning, Lewis is a huge liability out there as well. He had just clanked two free throw attempts a couple of possessions ago.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Bad Decisions on The Final Sequence


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John Harvard
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Date Posted: 15:04:43 02/12/17 Sun

Your analysis is sound. Interesting that Amaker left Zena in against Yale last night in a 4 point game. Apparently Coach Jones was screaming for his guys to foul Z.

Really too bad Harvard gave that win away. Would have made it quite a race for #1 seed. Not really a big deal though. Gotta win 2 games at the Palestra no matter what and top seed could still draw Penn "at home."

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Testing .....


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Observer
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Date Posted: 20:08:21 02/13/17 Mon

Are we working?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: yes


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holtsledge
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Date Posted: 20:31:37 02/13/17 Mon

10-4 over

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Diogenes
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Date Posted: 01:41:32 02/14/17 Tue

The intelligence community has cleared us of any seditious communications with the Russians or the NCAA.

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Calvin
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Date Posted: 08:18:39 02/14/17 Tue

In some cases there was already a surfeit of valuable blackmail material.

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Diogenes (Calvin)
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Date Posted: 13:18:01 02/14/17 Tue

An interesting concept. Particularly regarding Ivy football.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Bad Decisions on The Final Sequence


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Franklin
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Date Posted: 11:26:48 02/14/17 Tue

If this were a BCS power conference and three tallish African-American players (6'9", 6'5" and 6'5") were outjumped by a no taller Caucasian player (6'5") for a game-deciding rebound, locker room decorum would require the three players to quit the program, drop out of school and join the witness protection program.

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