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Subject: Princeton-Penn Headed to OT


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PU '96
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Date Posted: 15:33:58 03/11/17 Sat

Tigers looked very tight throughout and have never led. Missed eight consecutive shots before forcing a tie with 5 seconds left in regulation.

Penn was up ten points at one point and couldn't put them away.

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[> Subject: Princeton Survives, 72-64


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PU '96
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Date Posted: 15:52:04 03/11/17 Sat

Penn's cold shooting continued into OT, allowing Princeton to build a multi-possession lead. Chalk it up to The Palestra, I suppose, but hopefully this was a one-time hiccup for the Tigers.

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[> Subject: Told ya so!


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 16:06:38 03/11/17 Sat


Come on anti-tourney haters...

WASN'T THAT FUN?

:)

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[> Subject: Dodging the bullet


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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 16:18:21 03/11/17 Sat

It's conceivable there never would have been another preordained tourney game at an Ivy home court if Penn had won this one.

As it is, the league still has a shot at a 13 seed.

It took exactly two games to show why, if you're not gonna play on a neutral court, you play at the #1 seed. Period.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Dodging the bullet


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Memphis Bill
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Date Posted: 17:19:49 03/11/17 Sat

Yale 38 Harvard 30, at the half

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[> [> Subject: Re: Dodging the bullet


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 17:32:56 03/11/17 Sat


And if the Princeton men wins their first NCAA game in 20 years next week, they will be insisting that the Palestra be the permanent home of the Ivy tournament because it makes them battle-tested.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Dodging the bullet


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sparman
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Date Posted: 18:10:02 03/11/17 Sat

No, if they go to the NCAAs they will be happy to play at the Palestra because it will be a virtual home game, unless their opppnent is a Philly team.

But we're not there yet.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Dodging the bullet


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Memphis Bill
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Date Posted: 18:18:05 03/11/17 Sat

Yale 73-Harvard 71 final

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Dodging the bullet


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 18:28:21 03/11/17 Sat


Another excellent game.

The Ivy brass has to be thrilled with that way things have played out thus far...

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Dodging the bullet


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Son of Eli
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Date Posted: 18:43:04 03/11/17 Sat

Agree Go Green. A very exciting afternoon of Ivy League basketbal to showcase the quality of play in the league. This is the way to build fan base.

If Yale beats Princeton tomorrow will we see two Ivy League teams receive bids to the NCAA tournament? I'm hoping we get a chance to find out.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Dodging the bullet


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Memphis Bill
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Date Posted: 18:47:49 03/11/17 Sat

Agree with GG, today's games were a great national showcase for Ivy basketball. The Palestra is a great venue, but consideration should be given to awarding the regular season champ home court. What are the downsides? Smaller sites like Harvard, Yale or Columbia would detract somewhat from the atmosphere, but who cares, there should be a reward for regular season excellence.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: There are indeed rewards for regular season excellence


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 19:41:47 03/11/17 Sat


1) Seeding

2) Automatic bid to the NIT to the regular season champ.

If people don't think that's enough reward, they should say so. But phrasing the question as if no reward exists strikes me as disingenuous.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: There are indeed rewards for regular season excellence


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sparman
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Date Posted: 21:00:11 03/11/17 Sat

It's not disingenous in the least.

It looks like a big deal to you because Dartmouth has never sniffed the tournament in modern memory and any post-season play would be a thrill.

(Holtsledge, why am I drawn into this crap?)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: ah


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holtsledge
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Date Posted: 21:09:47 03/11/17 Sat

because you care? hell I don't know

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: He does!


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 21:14:59 03/11/17 Sat


Sparman (unlike others) actually adds substantive discussion to the board.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: plus


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holtsledge
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Date Posted: 21:23:17 03/11/17 Sat

he is a heckuva an iron player (great ball flight) and a really good putter

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Yes, it is


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 21:14:03 03/11/17 Sat


The auto-bid to the NIT speaks for itself. Princeton's season was going to continue no matter what the results were this weekend. The others-- probably not.

As for seeding, in theory, the #1 seed should have an easier time with the #4 seed than the #2 & #3 seeds have with each other. Indeed, I don't think Princeton played particularly welly today. Harvard or Yale might have knocked them off. But they played a weak Penn team and survived to fight another day.

I'm sure Henderson told his team afterwards that they got to do a lot better if they hope to win another game. We will find out whether the Tigers got the message.

So please--let's end the talk that there's "no reward" for winning the regular season. Saying that the regular season champ needs more reward is another story...

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: You don't get it, anad apparently never will


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sparman
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Date Posted: 21:39:24 03/11/17 Sat

NCAA is not equal to NIT. At least, not for Princeton, and probably for Penn, Harvard and Yale.

I'm out.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Feel free to argue...


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 22:29:49 03/11/17 Sat


That there's not ENOUGH reward for winning the regular season.

Stop arguing that there's NO reward for winning the regular season.

This is NOT a difficult concept.

Sure, NIT is not NCAA. But NIT is not nothing.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Dodging the bullet


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M3
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Date Posted: 20:54:09 03/11/17 Sat

Agree but the problem is that the Palestra is far and away the best Ivy site for hoops (sorry Jadwin).

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Dodging the bullet


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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 22:02:37 03/11/17 Sat

There's nothing immoral about a neutral site -- especially in a more geographically central location -- NYC, Hartford, whatever. That's my preference.

If it's at any Ivy arena, it should only be the #1 seed. Penn women playing at home tomorrow is earned, Tiger men should be at Jadwin.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Dodging the bullet


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M3
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Date Posted: 09:10:14 03/12/17 Sun

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/ivy-league-plays-a-basketball-tournament-and-its-almost-worth-the-60-year-wait/2017/03/11/c204c11a-06a5-11e7-b1e9-a05d3c21f7cf_story.html?utm_term=.1b3067f66aca

Good article

I think the Ivies, thanks to Harvard's leadership (read desire to be excellent in basketball) will be an NCAA 2 bid league in 3 years.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Dodging the bullet


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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 11:27:09 03/12/17 Sun

Feinstein is a true treasure. He and John McPhee should get a lot of credit for the overall image of the league (with all deference to Alex Wolff and others).

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton-Penn Headed to OT


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Date Posted: 09:59:34 03/12/17 Sun

The Tigers crushed Penn at the Palestra a few weeks back. I don't think where it was played had much to do with it. Penn closed the season strong and they shot really well in the first half. Like any other sport, it's very difficult to beat a team three times in a season, and they will have to do it again today. I thought for most of the game, the Tigers looked like they were sleepwalking. Weisz and Cook did not play well in my opinion and neither did Cannady. (But he was huge with those 10-10 foul shots). There were times to where the basket had a lid on it for the Tigers so I chalk it up to a very ugly win. I was really impressed with Yale yesterday, especially since they answered the challenge of every Harvard run in the game. No one should be surprised if the Tigers get knocked off today, however, the Tigers seem to find a way to win.

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[> Subject: attendance


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Son of Eli
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Date Posted: 11:37:32 03/12/17 Sun

Does any one have the announced attendance at yesterday's games?

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[> Subject: congratulations to the tigers


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remember it well
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Date Posted: 14:03:54 03/12/17 Sun

Well deserved champions. Best of luck the rest of the post season.

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[> [> Subject: Re: congratulations to the tigers


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Son of Eli
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Date Posted: 14:08:33 03/12/17 Sun

Yale over achieved this season. They had no returning starters from last season. Their future looks bright. I'll be rooting hard for Princeton in the tournament.

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[> [> Subject: Re: congratulations to the tigers


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Date Posted: 14:30:42 03/12/17 Sun

Would have liked to see the Bulldogs at March Madness, but Princeton really deserved it this year. Congratulations.

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[> [> Subject: Re: congratulations to the tigers


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 15:37:29 03/12/17 Sun


Congrats to the battle-tested Tigers! Setting a record for league victories in a season that will probably never be broken.

Good luck in the NCAAs!

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: congratulations to the tigers


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Bengal
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Date Posted: 20:40:46 03/12/17 Sun

Oh, it will eventually be broken if the Ivy League egalitarians continue their sway. We will eventually have an 8 team tournament.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: congratulations to the tigers


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 08:59:19 03/13/17 Mon


Perhaps, but I'm not seeing it happen anytime soon.

There were various objections to the tournament, but "too few teams" wasn't one of them.

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton-Penn Headed to OT


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Upper Valley
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Date Posted: 14:30:08 03/12/17 Sun

I would have been okay with either Princeton or Yale winning. I just thought that it would have been unfortunate had Penn won yesterday or today, no offense to the Quakers. It was a mistake to fix the tournament site at the home court of a team likely to make the field.

But the most deserving team won and congratulations to the Tigers.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Princeton-Penn Headed to OT


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HDallmar
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Date Posted: 16:01:05 03/12/17 Sun

Congrats to Mitch Henderson. He loses his two best players, Brase and Caruso, and still goes 16-0 in the league.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Princeton-Penn Headed to OT


Author:
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Date Posted: 09:38:27 03/13/17 Mon

This actually helped Princeton. More playing time for Stephens, Bell and Cannady was instrumental to their success, and sets them up better for next year and the year after.

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton-Penn Headed to OT


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MFK
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Date Posted: 10:43:35 03/13/17 Mon

It never "helps" a team to lose arguably their two best players. To their credit, the tigers found a way to work around it.

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