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Subject: Re: Princeton v. Notre Dame--I report, you decide.

Diogenes (joiseyfan)
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Date Posted: 16:17:18 03/13/17 Mon
In reply to: joiseyfan 's message, "Re: Princeton v. Notre Dame--I report, you decide." on 15:01:28 03/13/17 Mon

The point is that Ivy basketball and football are self limiting and could be much better if there was a will to improve

Princeton is a fabulous basketball team when judged by Ivy basketball standards. When judged by the standards of those in the NCAA tournament it's a different analysis.

I don't see the AI as an insuperable impediment. Northwestern, Stanford, Duke, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, USC, UCLA, Cal, Wisconsin, Michigan and others are fine schools with serious basketball teams. The idea that a few of their players could not meet the AI doesn't make sense to me. Is it impossible to recruit one or two serious players to each Ivy team in most years? Princeton has several players who could play at much higher levels--a couple more and a challenging schedule would put them over the top. The same could be said for Harvard and Yale.

Columbia plays in a basketball and media capital. Other than Columbia's lack of desire to have a better team, it's hard to believe that it couldn't recruit a few top drawer players every year.

Aren't there some decent students playing in the A-10 who would jump at a chance to play at the Palestra or in Philadelphia?

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remember it well (Diogenes)
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Date Posted: 17:21:34 03/13/17 Mon

I have never liked the AI (Ivy handicapping system) but like Dio I do not feel it has the same kind of restraining effect on bb as it does on Ivy fb. Wouldn't it be wonderful for Ivy students to be able to experience the same kind of enjoyment from their bb teams as students do at Georgetown and the schools listed by Dio.

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[> [> [> Subject: Believe it

Go Green
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Date Posted: 20:08:30 03/13/17 Mon

Stanford was operating at Ivy-AI levels during the Teevens and later Mike Montgomery years.

We remember how the teams did in that era.


They fired the admissions director, relaxed admissions standards, and PRESTO! The teams got better.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: What happened to Stanford afterwards

remember it well (GG)
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Date Posted: 21:13:54 03/13/17 Mon

Ranked #5 by US News and #1 by Forbes.
Just imagine what their rankings would be if they didn't "relax" their admission standards.

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