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Subject: Re: U Chicago Reports 2021 Football Recruiting Class


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Date Posted: 18:15:48 04/16/17 Sun
In reply to: Parent 's message, "U Chicago Reports 2021 Football Recruiting Class" on 12:19:04 04/15/17 Sat

In defense of where I went to grad school

1) Excellent academics. As good or better an undergrad eduction as any Ivy or Stanford. They expect students to work.

2) Chicago is a great town. Like New York except the people are not full of themselves and are polite.

3) They have gone beyond the old quote of President Hutchins "Whenever I feel the need to exercise I lie down until it goes away". The athletic facilities now are now quite nice.


As per the Northwestern comment they are basically Princeton on Lake Michigan.

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[> Subject: Re: U Chicago Reports 2021 Football Recruiting Class


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IvySportsJunkie
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Date Posted: 11:51:04 04/17/17 Mon

While I fully agree that U Chicago is an excellent university academically, the surrounding neighborhood (Hyde Park) is not good and somewhat unsafe. To illustrate this point, well over 90% of the U Chicago MBAs commute to campus from downtown Chicago to avoid living in this neighborhood. In sharp contrast, Northwestern has over 90% of its MBAs living near the campus in Evanston.

As a graduate student, you do not mind commuting to the U C campus from downtown Chicago, but for undergraduate student athletes, they strongly prefer to be part of a campus with a good social life. Until U Chicago truly regentrifies the surrounding neighborhood, U Chicago will always struggle in its recruiting process.

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[> [> Subject: Re: U Chicago Reports 2021 Football Recruiting Class


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Date Posted: 17:55:43 06/02/17 Fri

Excellent points about UChicago's Hyde Park location. While the campus is among then most beautiful in the world, the surrounding area can be improved quite a bit. The recent development site that put a Whole Foods in Hyde Park seems to be spreading, with other mixed use and retail popping up all over. This activity and investment is likely coming in front of the multi billion Presidential Library, which will be truly transformative to the area. That said, for recruits thinking about comparing to the Ivies, the location is a long way to go to become Cambridge. On other hand, It is many levels above New Haven and Providence. Penn and Chicago can be a jump ball. NYC and Columbia and Chicago, in addition to the Core Curriculum rivalry among students, is truly a measure of the East Coast and the Midwest. Preference. As for Cornell and Dartmouth, better if you like rural, worse if you want city. Princeton is a suburban middle ground among all of them. But location is an excellent topic to compare and contrast.

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[> [> [> Subject: Columbia: A Few Notes


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Tod Howard Hawks
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Date Posted: 21:00:13 06/02/17 Fri

Columbia had the third most selective Class of 2021 in the nation, 5.8%.

And it was the famed Mortimer Adler, an alumnus of Columbia College, who brought from Columbia to Chicago, the Great Books program, the precursor of the Columbia's Core Curriculum, which was founded in 1919 and has been the centerpiece of Columbia College's undergraduate education continuously ever since.

Moreover, it should be noted that every Columbia College student, regardless of his or her major or extra-curricular interests, is required to take this two-year, rigorous course of study that ranges from the great books of literature and history and philosophy to the great works of art and music. And speaking of football players (not to mention other athletes or dancers or debaters, etc.), there is no end-sweep wide enough to circumvent the Core.

Chicago was, and still is, the beneficiary of Columbia's forward thinking.

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Observer
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Date Posted: 22:52:54 06/02/17 Fri

Both Chicago and Columbia have BINDING early decision, which helps the yield rate a bit.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Columbia and Harvard and Stanford


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Tod Howard Hawks
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Date Posted: 00:54:04 06/03/17 Sat

It is only fair to note that Harvard was not the most selective school (5.2%) in the nation in 2017. That honor belongs to Stanford (4.7%)

Columbia, as mentioned above (5.8%), comes in third nationally, trailing only Harvard and Stanford, but not by much.

Tod Howard Hawks CC 66

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: But then ....


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Observer
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Date Posted: 07:48:50 06/03/17 Sat

Columbia's "selectivity" was enhanced by relying on a binding early admissions program, unlike HYPSM. If you applied early to Columbia, you were FORCED to attend if admitted, and to forced to withdraw all other applications.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: But then ....


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Date Posted: 16:35:36 06/03/17 Sat

Are Cantabs really so insecure that they need to point this out ad infinitum?

Everyone knows that Harvard is Harvard. Nobody needs to point out the historical "greatness" of the institution. It is what it is.

The thin skinned-ness of Harvard supporters on this board is sometimes funny to watch. You can expect this kind of thirsty bragging from Dukies and NESCAC alums, but Harvard, really?

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