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Subject: Columbia Spring Football Game


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Ivy Voyeur
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Date Posted: 16:46:22 04/18/17 Tue

Hmmm ... is the radio silence intentional? Bagnoli said the team is further along than he expected at this stage. Sounds like the game went well, although one can't tell from the AD website. Does anyone who went care to comment? Wondering especially about Hill's play, backup QBs, running backs and the linebacker corps.

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[> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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anonymous
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Date Posted: 18:50:38 04/18/17 Tue

Hill looked sharp and definitely looking better than last year. Receivers very strong, way better than last year too. OLine pretty good, probably as good as last year right now. Backup QB's work in progress, both played solid but nothing spectacular, so unclear who backup will be. Several starting/key defensive players didn't play at all. Still questions since one starting frosh LB missed, one played banged up. Only surprise was 14, a backup OLB who played very well and looks like will get on field in fall. Rest were fine but nothing exceptional. DLine very solid even with 2 starters/key guys missing. DB's looked very good and it felt like a bit more speed than prior years even with 2 starters missing. RB's looked good, and bigger but 20 got banged up and pulled early. RB 30 had very good game, as did 25 who looks quick and elusive. 22 didn't play due to baseball. Overall, team looked way ahead of same point last year, but still some questions going into fall. Definitely a lot better depth than last year and no obvious holes other than the need for a really fast RB.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game (Hill and D)


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Al's Wingman
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Date Posted: 01:03:21 04/19/17 Wed

That would be a tremendous boon if Anders Hill has matured into the role of a credible starting QB. His escapability and running ability has never been in question. It is his decision making and passing accuracy that has been a problem.

I am not worried about the defense. What used to be mangled swiss cheese has been turned around. If they can solve the depth they have always needed they should be able to stay in games.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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foehi
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Date Posted: 17:19:37 04/20/17 Thu

"no obvious holes". Could be the title of a book about the history of Columbia offensive lines over the years.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


Author:
The Lion (Foehi)
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Date Posted: 13:25:22 04/21/17 Fri

I could ask, very politely, if that could also be the title of a book about your head, but that wouldn't comply with my courteous,
Dignified persona, so I won't.

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[> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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Dr V
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Date Posted: 09:25:16 04/19/17 Wed

The major positive was the play of the DBs. I don't know whether there is more speed/quickness/athleticism at that position or whether much better technique or, probably, both, but the DBs looked much better than in the past. The major negative was the unimpressive play of the 3 potential backup QBs.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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al's wingman
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Date Posted: 13:36:00 04/19/17 Wed

Well, it's not like backup QBs have gotten a lot of reps. It's hard to tell a QBs potential until they are pressed into regular season action.

Sounds like things are on track if they are going with Hill and done with the unsuccessful Skyler Morhinweg experiment.

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[> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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Happy Lion
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Date Posted: 19:47:55 04/19/17 Wed

The defense looked better than the offense. Back up QB's did not look great. Would agree #30 Running Back ran hard and had two +10 yard runs something missing last year. #25 also had a nice 20 yard run. There were a lot of injuries which I would guess means there was a lot of hard hitting out there. Would like to see a tough runner that could consistently get 5 yards and set up the passing game better. The receivers looked good and there weren't a lot of dropped ball. Hopefully Columbia can be 5-5 this year or better.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


Author:
CU_88
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Date Posted: 20:48:06 04/19/17 Wed

Looks like we had a better spring practice than last year. That is what I would like to see . Given the fact that Dartmouth has already won the 2017 Ivy league title based on the tout factor, going for a 5-5 record would be a good goal. (I would like to see 3 or 4 Ivy wins).

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[> [> Subject: woah woah woah


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holtsledge
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Date Posted: 20:59:42 04/19/17 Wed

back up, I think there are a lot more schools that have higher touted classes than Dartmouth this yr. We are definitely middle of the pack in this yrs class but we have had a couple of pretty good touted classes and we return a starting QB but the fav is still Pton and Harvard and since P has 2 qbs and Harvard has Viv returning

Plus remember Yale has the best coach in the league with Tony Romo

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[> [> [> Subject: Out the tout


Author:
Diogenes (Holtsledge)
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Date Posted: 21:21:24 04/19/17 Wed

And those who tout the touted.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: woah woah woah


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Al's Wingman
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Date Posted: 21:47:17 04/19/17 Wed

Hotsledge wrote: "Plus remember Yale has the best coach in the league with Tony Romo."

My eyes are bad but that is not what's making me squint.

http://i.imgur.com/auzxo1Z.jpg

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: woah woah woah


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Calvin
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Date Posted: 09:46:34 04/20/17 Thu

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohze2nRRMzfdFOZa0/giphy.gif

https://giphy.com/gifs/11GzN8qjZkDdUk/fullscreen

You're not by any chance in training to replace "Spicey," are you?

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[> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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anonymous
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Date Posted: 21:09:01 04/19/17 Wed

Wouldn't look past the potential of this squad. Don't think it's prudent to predict an Ivy title yet, but with one or two decent pickups in 2017 class (esp. at RB) there likely will be more wins than not, and an outside chance of an upside Ivy surprise if ball bounces for them a few times and injuries are contained.

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[> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


Author:
Old Lion (Bubble)
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Date Posted: 22:17:33 04/19/17 Wed

Al said the bubble made a huge difference this off season.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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anonymous
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Date Posted: 15:22:48 04/20/17 Thu

Hard to say on freshmen. It's always easiest for frosh to have impact where the "holes" are in current squad or where depth is needed. Squad has solid RB's but no one yet playing exceptional, so expect coaches will be watching Moore and Taylor carefully and probably will give many shots hoping for speed. Would have said same for one or two of incoming DBs but existing ones looked good as did WR's so 2017 adds more likely backups if no one emerges as burner. The incoming QB's may challenge for 2 or 3 spot but if one gets on field will likely be biggest/best runner in limited role to take stress off Hill. This was a hole in spring game. Like looks of some incoming OL (Wise), but can't see them challenging till Sophs. Would have said Woodley had outside shot, but 8 is solid and 14 looked very good and may have the final say. Cooper Wilson may have dedicated pass rush role if he's fast as expected but lots of competition on speed rush from 2016 kids. Based on "physical" looks of others who showed, not sure any will challenge right away but there are always surprises.

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[> Subject: Freshmen most likely to make a difference?


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unvgar
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Date Posted: 09:12:44 04/20/17 Thu

The team's looking very solid this early in the process. That said, any thoughts on incoming freshmen who might make a difference? Here's the list (which may or may not be accurate) for reference:


1. Darion Achido WR RB DB 5'9" 178lbs Liberty, Henderson, NV
http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3182509/57d0e2ac688ec4fb4440a132

2. Luke Adams LB RB 6'2" 210lbs Notre Dame Prep, Pontiac, MI
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2640774/luke-adams

3. Jalen Allen RB OLB 5'11" 185lbs Cranbrook Kingswood, Bloomfield Hills, MI
http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3593028/5721c0bb0dcb0d12f860fb84

4. Will Allen III CB, FS 5'9" 164lbs American Heritage, Plantation, FL
http://www.hudl.com/profile/3913447/will-allen-iii

5. Josh Bean QB 6'2" 200lbs Hinsdale Central, Hinsdale, IL
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4434893/josh-bean

6. Cameren Carter OLB 6'2" 215lbs Duluth HS, Duluth, GA
http://www.hudl.com/profile/4111271/cameren-carter

7. Dillon Davis QB SS 6'2" 206lbs Aledo HS, Aledo, TX
http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3051830/57c49172842eb2275814bef4

8. Myles Davis WR, RB, FS 5'11" 175lbs Payton College Prep Chicago, IL
http://www.hudl.com/video/3/5317842/5721deb164e96b63802b8f98

9. Seth DeVary T DT 6'4" 275lbs Larue County, Hodgenville, KY
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2765576/highlights/315437377

10. Alexander Filacouris RB 6'1" 200lbs Half Hollow Hills, Dix Hills, NY
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3929025/alexander-filacouris

11. Graham Flinn FS WR 6"1" 180lbs Benedictine, Richmond, VA
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2824936/graham-flinn

12. Tyson Hugee CB WR 6'0" 170lbs Springside Chestnut, Philadelphia, PA
http://www.hudl.com/video/3/4265221/5721cc910428ae20e4c7dbd2

13. Emerson Kabus WR 5'10" 170lbs St. Augustine, St. Augustine, FL
http://www.hudl.com/profile/5640627/emerson-kabus

14. Josh Kaminski DT T 6'4" 280lbs Seton Hall Prep, West Orange, NJ
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3991939/josh-kaminski

15. Cameron Lipton-Martinez TE DE 6'5" 225lbs Montclair High, Montclair, NJ
http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3625128/5721ddc2bd746d007c8020c3

16. Casey Mariucci TE DE 6'4" 215lbs La Jolla Country Day, La Jolla, CA
http://www.hudl.com/profile/3060021/casey-mariucci

17. Ben Mathiasmeier SS FS 5'10" 190lbs Cinco Ranch, Katy, TX
http://wwww.hudl.com/v/QHJEx

18. Marquavious Moore RB DE 5'11" 202lbs Memphis Harding, Memphis, TN
http://www.hudl.com/profile/3055340/marquavious-moore

19. Andrew Nichols TE DE 6'3" 230lbs Centennial, Peoria, AZ
http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3121352/5721b768dfe23b2d68917836

20. Carson Powell OLB RB 6'0" 205lbs Cardinal Newman, West Palm Beach, FL
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2912499/carson-powell

21. Bailey Rotsky DB WR 6'0" 176lbs Mayfield High, Mayfield, OH
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2807341/bailey-rotsky

22. Jon Rowe G C 6'3" 283lbs Ardrey Kell, Charlotte, NC
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2866772/jon-rowe

23. Drew Schmid P K 6'0" 205lbs La Jolla Country Day, La Jolla, CA
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2701188/drew-schmid

24. Broderick Taylor RB 6'1" 202lbs Holly Springs HS, Holly Springs, N.C.
http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3364149/57f834ed90f9933160b70e90

25. Dwayne Warren Jr. WR 6'3" 198lbs Seton Hall Prep, West Orange, NJ
http://www.hudl.com/profile/3917169/dwayne-warren

26. Hank White T TE 6'6" 250lbs Buford High, Buford, GA
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3902511/hank-white

27. Ashton Cooper Wilson DE OLB 6'3" 230lbs Merritt Island High, Merritt Island, FL
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3775144/ashton-wilson

28. Peter Wise OT 6'5" 290lbs Brunswick School, Greenwich, CT
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4051592/peter-wise

29. Blake Wooden 6'1" 180lbs FS SS American Heritage, Plantation, FL
http://www.hudl.com/video/3/4036499/5721dd45c124573b54867ae0

30. Justin Woodley ILB 6'2" 210lbs The Bishop's School, La Jolla, CA
http://www.hudl.com/profile/2739303/justin-woodley

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[> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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Happy Lion
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Date Posted: 16:02:30 04/20/17 Thu

It is hard to guess on incoming freshman as you can look great in high school and end up average at best in college. Same with the jump from college to pro. How often do you see can't miss players not live up to the hype. That being said Peter Wise could be a beast.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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The Mountain Lion
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Date Posted: 22:02:06 04/20/17 Thu

Nichols, Schmid, Woodley, Moore and Lipton-Martinez are rated the highest by 247 Sports, but there are several others who seem capable of contributing immediately, particularly at the skills positions where freshmen are most likely to make an impact. Taylor, Moore, Filacouris and Allen all have impressive credentials at running back where the Lions need a replacement for Alan Watson who is graduating. One intriguing newcomer is the speedy kick off returner from Nevada, who racked up huge yardage last year and will join Wainwright, Rose and perhaps Gabriel as kick off and punt returners. The two incoming quarterbacks have solid stats, but in my opinion they are unlikely to move ahead of the three sophomores who already know the offense. Watch for the two Seton Hall players, Warren and Kaminski, to make an impact.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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Old Lion (Geraghty?)
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Date Posted: 09:06:43 04/21/17 Fri

Where is Geraghty, the very excellent freshman DE? I did not see him on the Spring roster. And where is Jake? He hasn't blogged in several weeks

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Geraghty on the roster


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ungvar
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Date Posted: 10:24:14 04/21/17 Fri

He's still on the gocolumbialions.com roster.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Geraghty on the roster


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Old Lion (roster)
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Date Posted: 12:01:17 04/21/17 Fri

The only roster that I see on gocolumbialions is for last Fall's team.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Geraghty on the roster


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floridalion
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Date Posted: 12:38:20 04/21/17 Fri

Old Lion, I agree, the CU site doesn't show any updates to last year's roster.
Out of curiosity, I looked at Geraghty's twitter page, it still shows all of his CU
football stuff. I'm also curious about Petlansky, as a freshman QB he played more
than the others, but he doesn't seem to have played in the spring game.

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Paddy
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Date Posted: 13:25:26 04/21/17 Fri

Petlansky did play, but has moved to TE

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 12:29:34 04/21/17 Fri


Jake has been writing plenty. But it's been for his real job.

Hopefully he will get his priorities straight again by fall.

:)

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[> [> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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Roar
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Date Posted: 16:04:08 04/21/17 Fri

Have also been wondering about Geraghty. He is not listed on spring roster (list on Twitter, I think, not on CU website which is lagging, wonder why). That's my only question mark at this point, but we should still have good​ depth at good depth at DE.

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anonymous
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Date Posted: 17:03:49 04/21/17 Fri

A couple of kids left program. Two left football. One leaving school. One still listed OFG on injury. Good kids always missed, but squad still very strong and w/2017 kids competition at level not seen in past. Things always change, but could be 12+ 2016 starters. Some really good upperclassmen too, especially on lines.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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LionFan
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Date Posted: 18:35:13 04/21/17 Fri

Heard a couple kids left.
Biggest pluses of spring were OL, WR and Anders Hill on offense
Biggest on defense were young CBs, young DL and Jake Young

Coaches are saying incoming class is stronger/deeper then current Fr and will fill gaps to have a great 2-3 deep in near future.

Expect Fr RBs and LBs to get a shot to move up depth chart early.

Heard there is a little edge because too many people on periphery of program are happy with last seasons 3 wins and close losses. Direct quote "we lost to 3 worst teams we played, no one is locker room is happy about last year"

Don't know when it will happen but can promise this staff is not going to let this team just become competitive and then relax.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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florida lion
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Date Posted: 20:23:13 04/21/17 Fri


Anonymous and Lion Fan, thanks for the updates. Sometimes we forget how hard it is to go from being a big fish in a small pond to the reverse. And, being in a challenging academic environment, some student/athletes will shuffle priorities. Best wishes to them.

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anonymous
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Date Posted: 15:47:02 04/22/17 Sat

For record, didn't mean to imply kids leaving did so for grades. Other factors at play. Don't pay attention to class strength arguments. Different types of classes, and really not close regardless of external talk/hype. One was a "rebuild" class, one more a "fill-holes" class. Right way to go so credit to coaches. Which will have bigger impact? All guess work now. This year we'll get read on how good 2016 class really is, and probably not till next year on how good 2017 is. Not expecting many 2017 kids to break into heavy playing roles mostly because it's not as necessary this year. But there are always a few surprises and early injuries can change the picture fast. Only exception may be at RB because big need for someone to separate themselves. Impact surprises more likely from "very" motivated upperclassmen and a few 2016 kids finally getting "shots' this year. 2 year talent rebuild means age not major factor and things inverted for a while, so upperclassmen holding positions are really proving themselves. Increased competition means no one is a safe starter (except Hill) so things unlikely to be as static throughout season. All this bodes very well for future.

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[> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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Happy Lion
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Date Posted: 12:23:22 04/22/17 Sat

Gerahty left the program. He had talent so it is too bad. Hard for kids to deal with Ivy League School plus football on top of it. Last years class was regarded a lot higher than this years class. Last year they had a lot more recruits. I think Bagnoli is doing a great job recruiting. Will be hard to pass Harvard and Penn but he can sell New York City to the kids and the facilities. Give them a top QB and they could make a run for a title.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Columbia Spring Football Game


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Tod Howard Hawks
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Date Posted: 16:55:29 04/23/17 Sun

Read all the posts, but I don't think anybody mentioned the kicking game. Milstein (who beat Dartmouth single-footedly last year) and Schmid (from La Jolla) are gold.

Tod Howard Hawks CC 66

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