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Subject: Re: UNC is a mecca for athletes


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Drew2411
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Date Posted: 17:35:04 06/20/17 Tue
In reply to: al's wingman 's message, "UNC is a mecca for athletes" on 14:53:52 06/20/17 Tue

Football grades scandal? The African American Independent Studies scam was developed by and for UNC men's basketball full stop. Every key player on 05 and 09 took advantage of scam.

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al's wingman
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Date Posted: 19:02:56 06/20/17 Tue

the fake classes covered a few sports. for an allegedly prestigious university they had a passion for winning at any cost.

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Drew2411
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Date Posted: 19:21:29 06/21/17 Wed

True...once it was put in place, women's soccer, basketball, football and baseball took advantage but it was created for men's hoop

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Al's Wingman
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Date Posted: 23:05:20 06/21/17 Wed

woah, women's soccer? seriously? I have a history in the sport having been a coach and financier of amateur teams. I know head coach (since the 70s) Anson Dorrance and 100% certain he would never allow that with any of his players. On the average, women's soccer players are good students and don't need fraud to get by. They welcome a full scholarship of course but they earn it.

UNC used to completely dominate women's DI soccer. The rest of the pack has caught up. West Virginia beat them in the tournament this year. There was a time the very thought of that would be laughed at.

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Date Posted: 18:11:44 06/23/17 Fri

Read the Weinstein Report...Anson personally has emails pushing for these faux independent classes. Some will say the reason for the fall off in UNC soccer is tied to the crack down on these classes.

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Al's Wingman
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Date Posted: 21:27:33 06/24/17 Sat

I didn't deep dive into that report but I'm not seeing anything glaring or definitive. Any way it is looked at it is a largely bogus claim to include women's soccer in that scandal. That program has absolutely at no time ever needed to rely on anything fraudulent to recruit and retain top talent. Perhaps most telling is the fake classes were set up specifically in the afro-american dept. Not to be insensitive but that diminishes the pool of possible women's soccer students involved. It just doesn't add up. The process is a student athlete gets admitted to the program the same as any student. There's just no scenario that would put a student athlete in a situation that is different from her peers in the soccer program.

I know Anson Dorrance has his detractors but he's far from dumb. He wouldn't risk his career on anything like that. What's in it for any coach to do that unless they needed the talent enrolled at any cost?

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