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Subject: Harry Sheehy should read this


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 08:30:10 06/25/17 Sun


By all accounts, this is pretty much why Amy Patton was fired.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/womens-college-athletes-dont-need-another-coddling-parent-they-need-a-coach/2017/06/23/4765cf40-5820-11e7-a204-ad706461fa4f_story.html?utm_term=.9508bde952e5

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holtsledge
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Date Posted: 10:12:01 06/25/17 Sun

interesting good article

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Diogenes
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Date Posted: 11:12:28 06/25/17 Sun

Retirees have more time to read.

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Go Green
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Date Posted: 11:56:11 06/25/17 Sun


People who care about journalism still subscribe to newspapers.

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Diogenes (Go Green)
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Date Posted: 12:07:05 06/25/17 Sun

The question is whether "journalism" cares about itself.

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[> Subject: Re: Harry Sheehy should read this


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 15:54:53 06/25/17 Sun

I'd like to give some credit to coaches (and people) who get fired without cause and then bite their tongues indefinitely instead of complaining publicly. In this day and age, it's easier than ever to go on attack with the equivalent of a nuclear bomb.

Yesterday, on Boomer & Carton radio in the New York market, a coach of a 12-year-old girls' softball team in downtown New York went on the air and described in great detail how his team had been cheated by the decision of a league administrator whose daughter happened to play for the opposing team, which was awarded a win without even a pitch being thrown. Over and over again, the aggrieved coach pronounced the administrator's name -- Andrew Zeltner or Zeltzer -- to make sure that the listening public got it in their minds. To really drive the point home, a half dozen 12-year-old girls were in the studio to tell Boomer & Carton how they cried after being denied a chance to play. Then Boomer & Carton piled on and said they would have the station softball team play the girls to replace the game they missed.

I thought to myself, this is amazing. These guys just made Andrew Zeltner Public Enemy Number One in both morning radio and afternoon television throughout the New York media market.

Folks like Amy Patton and Frank Sullivan, whether fired without cause or simply for not winning enough, show a lot of discipline for not taking to the media to tell their side of the story. I guess many of them must have signed nondisclosure agreements to receive some severance payment.

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Go Green
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Date Posted: 16:59:01 06/25/17 Sun


I think there's a difference between the Frank Sullivans, Joe Yukicas, John Lyons, and Dave Fauchers in the world who did not receive the support necessary to win and were fired because they weren't miracle workers and...

The Joe Scotts, Terry Dunns, Amy Pattons, and Pete Mangurians who were accused of player abuse (and yeah--didn't win as much). I'm sure they all had their sides of the stories as well, but we will never know what they were.

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IvySportsJunkie
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Date Posted: 17:53:12 06/25/17 Sun

Unlike the Power Conferences who are quick to fire under performing coaches, the Ivy League tends to give its basketball coaches at least 5 years coaching tenure to prove their abilities. The few exceptions tend to have generated either very poor records, such as Jesse Agel , who was only 14-42 for his 4 year Ivy record at Brown or Glen Miller, who created many internal issues in his 3 years at Penn. Examples of Ivy basketball coaches with mediocre records who have been given some flexibility by their ADs are: Mike Martin at Brown, Joe Jones at Columbia, Terry Dunn at Dartmouth, Frank Sullivan at Harvard, and Jerome Allen at Penn. I am glad our Ivy ADs can give our coaches more time to prove themselves.

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