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Subject: Re: I guess, but...


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TigerTown
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Date Posted: 08:38:54 06/29/17 Thu
In reply to: Go Green 's message, "I guess, but..." on 07:46:29 06/29/17 Thu

GG-While I enjoy your commentary on so many topics, you are dead wrong on this one.

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Go Green
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Date Posted: 08:47:20 06/29/17 Thu


I'm not privy to what's been said in rooms.

But there have been several articles in the past few years pushing Princeton-Rutgers. Pretty much all of them either say or at least indicate that Princeton/Surace is the reason that the game is not happening.

If there's anything publicly available suggesting otherwise, I'm happy to look at it.

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An Observer
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Date Posted: 09:30:06 06/29/17 Thu

Take a look at the two-item sub-thread immediately above this one, from TigerTown and me.

Here are two relevant stories:

https://www.onthebanks.com/2017/5/17/15655366/rutgers-football-completes-2019-schedule-with-umass-as-princeton-dream-dead-big-ten-boston-college

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2017/05/rutgers_football_to_play_liberty_in_2019_season.html

My takeaway is that, initially, under the Flood regime at Rutgers, the Scarlet Knights wanted to play, but Surace demurred. Now under the new Ash administration in New Brunswick, it's clear that Rutgers no longer wants to play.

Surace may or may not feel differently, but his opinion is no longer relevant because Rutgers has closed the door. The clearest sign is that, just this past month, they signed a contract to play UMass on 31 August 2019, the most logical date for a Princeton game. This fills Rutgers' twelve-game 2019 regular season schedule.

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Son of Eli
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Date Posted: 09:52:37 06/29/17 Thu

As John Lennon sang "the dream is over."

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Son of Eli
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Date Posted: 10:09:07 06/29/17 Thu

The fact that Rutgers scheduled Liberty belies the notion that Rutgers wasn't interested in playing Princeton in 2019. I would think Rutgers would prefer a game of national historical significance to playing Liberty. Certainly the NCAA would give bowl counter status to Princeton under the existing historical exception rule so there is no advantage for Rutgers to play Liberty over Princeton.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I'll give you Rutgers


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 10:04:46 06/29/17 Thu


Although given the full context of what we know of the discussions, Rutgers' recent statements saying that they didn't want the Princeton game anyway strikes me somewhere between sour grapes and face-saving.

The claim that Rutgers v. Princeton would be a "mismatch of epic proportions" would be more believable if Rutgers hadn't actually lost the last FCS team it played from the Northeast.

http://www.scarletknights.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/091104aaa.html

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An Observer
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Date Posted: 10:16:22 06/29/17 Thu

I think that Rutgers is likely sincere when they say, even through back channels, that they don't want to play Princeton.

The reason has been articulated by Son of Eli, you, me and others. The game will likely be competitive and there is a real risk that Princeton wins. Had the anniversary been in 2016 and late in the season when both teams' profiles were evident, I'd like Princeton to win, even in New Brunswick.

That's a huge disincentive for Rutgers, suffering an embarrassing defeat not only on national television, but during a much hyped celebration game complete with fanfare and hoopla.

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Son of Eli
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Date Posted: 10:24:09 06/29/17 Thu

Agreed. The only reason Rutgers has to not play Princeton is that they are afraid they would suffer and embarrassing defeat with the country watching. The program is already reeling and they don't want to risk that. I get it. What I don't get was Surace's reluctance when Rutgers originally floated the idea back in 2015. Princeton should of struck while the iron was hot.

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holtsledge
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Date Posted: 10:41:16 06/29/17 Thu

Who will be the next Ivy Football coach to resign retire get fired?

I am going with Tony Romo

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bulldog10jw
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Date Posted: 11:18:32 06/29/17 Thu

Tim Tebow

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