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Subject: An Impressive Segment

al's wingman
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Date Posted: 18:07:58 07/05/17 Wed
In reply to: IvyFBDad 's message, "Ivy Football Preview" on 16:38:02 06/29/17 Thu

Can't recall Ivy League football pre-season coverage being that good ever. Nice use of whatever video studio they are using to get it done as well.

I do think some of their praise is a little over the top, stretching it as far as impact players and freshmen. Overall the formula is not that complicated,. As usual, the parity in the league means that the better teams have to be careful of spoiler teams, the mid range teams need to hope they get breakthrough players and efficiency to win some games they are not expected to win. The lower end of the standings need magic in a bottle.

My pick is Penn to win the league but it could very well end up being a Harvard bounce back campaign after some disappointment last year. Princeton has what it takes but can they overcome those few critical letdowns that seem to get in their way when it is on the line. Spoilers are Dartmouth, Yale and Brown who could surprise and steal a big game in conference (as is the usual pattern). 4 wins would be a big season for Columbia. I don't expect much from Cornell though they have some good players as usual.

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Memphis Bill
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Date Posted: 20:57:39 07/05/17 Wed

Agree with Al's Wingman that this is an impressive preview of the upcoming Ivy season. Also agree that right now that the League title is likely to go to one of H, P or P. However, spoilers are out there, and early season games such as Dartmouth-Penn, Dartmouth-Yale, and Yale- Penn will sort things out by mid-October--by then, I would think whether Dartmouth or Yale can be a true challenger will be determined. I doubt that Brown has the firepower to keep up with the five teams mentioned above. As a Yale fan, I must observe that Ivy titles are strongly influenced by QB quality, and Rawlings showed me quite a bit in last November's Harvard upset. Another wild card can be academic/injury red shirts, and Yale has two coming back on defense, both former first team All Ivies, DB Spencer Rymiszewski, and DT Copache Tyler.

Lastly, there has been a lot of discussion on this board about the significance of Rivals and 247 ratings. As perceptive contributors have observed here, such ratings must be discounted, as careful scouting and film evaluation by skilled coaches probably trump what the ratings say. Perhaps a good barometer of the talent vs coaching, nature/nurture controversy may be the performance of the '17 Yale defensive unit which, barring injuries (always an issue with recent Yale teams), could be composed of at least ten players who have either received All Ivy accolades, or carry 3 star rankings from one of the above tout sheets.
Should be an interesting season!

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