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Subject: Re: Columbia and Chicago Threads: Unraveling of HYP Hegemony

Old Lion (ancient history)
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Date Posted: 14:07:27 07/13/17 Thu
In reply to: Anthony 's message, "Columbia and Chicago Threads: Unraveling of HYP Hegemony" on 14:55:01 07/12/17 Wed

Actually, in the 1930s Columbia and Harvard were generally regarded as the two leading academic institutions. Columbia began a period of decline because Nicholas Murray Butler thought that fund raising was unimportant. Butler's legacy resulted in chronic underfunding, along with many years of incompetent leadership, which culminated in the disastrous events of 1968. A long, slow climb back to top ten status did not really reach full strength until the extraordinary period of revitalization of NYC in the 1990s, and the real accelerant has been the 15 year stewardship of Lee Bollinger.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Columbia and Chicago Threads: Unraveling of HYP Hegemony

florida lion
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Date Posted: 14:56:11 07/13/17 Thu

To add to Old Lion's comments, Butler championed the University to the detriment of the College and its athletics. Around the same time, the College had become a less attractive destination for some due to the mass immigration into NYC.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Columbia and Chicago Threads: Unraveling of HYP Hegemony

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Date Posted: 19:22:27 07/13/17 Thu

Analytically, how do we try to isolate the effect of Bollinger as the accelerant from the backdrop of a New York City which continues to grow in popularity after bottoming out in the early 1990s?

It would have been tough to make lemonade out of lemons as NYC deteriorated from the mid-60s to the late 80s, just as today many applicants want to study at Columbia just to be in the city. NYU's popularity is even higher and, on a relative basis, has increased by more from New York's nadir.

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[> [> [> Subject: Numerus Causus

Tod Howard Hawks
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Date Posted: 01:41:10 07/14/17 Fri

Numerus Causus is Latin for "closed number." It refers to racial quotas used by Ivy and other elite schools against Jews in the past, and Asians in the present.

Florida Lion's post above mentioned "mass immigrations," which prompted me to share with you what follows.

As one who came to Columbia College via Andover and Kansas, I remember the fascination of long afternoons exploring the Lower East Side where multitudes of Jewish families had come many year before from Ellis Island to make their homes. I should add that when I was at the College (1962-1966), the percentage of Jewish students was around 40%, the same as Harvard College had at that same town.

That's the good news.

I am now compelled to share with you Columbia's nefarious complicity in using racial quotas against Jews. I refer to the establishment by Columbia in 1928 of Seth Low Junior College where the College dumped even their brightest applicants who were not admitted because they were Jews. Seth Low was a two-year school and did not award a diploma. Instead, Seth Low students were allowed to matriculate to Columbia Extension School (the precursor to the School of General Studies). Those who graduated received a B.S. degree, not the B.A. degree that College graduates received.
Issac Asimov, the world-renown writer, was one of many brilliant students who was denied admission to the College because he was Jewish, not white, rich, Protestant, or a legacy. Though he later graduated from Columbia University with B.S., Masters, and Doctorate degrees, when asked about his experience at Seth Low Junior College, he replied, "It was humiliating." Seth Low Junior College closed circa 1936.

Hitler's Kristallnacht came two years later, in 1938.

Tod Howard Hawks CC 66

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[> [> [> Subject: Same could be said for Penn

Go Green
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Date Posted: 09:05:41 07/14/17 Fri

Penn's rise in the USNWR rankings pretty much coincide with Philadelphia's becoming a nicer place to live.

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