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Date Posted: 14:23:50 07/14/17 Fri
In reply to: Ivy Voyeur 's message, "Re: Columbia and Chicago Threads: Unraveling of HYP Hegemony" on 08:07:13 07/14/17 Fri

I didn't read Karabel's book but I remember reading this in HS was

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Date Posted: 17:21:51 07/15/17 Sat

"As fundraising accelerated, NYU built academic and housing facilities and raided other schools for top faculty promising tremendous support (and great residences in the Village). Now, it's likely on an academic par with some or all of the Ivies."

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Date Posted: 19:08:16 07/15/17 Sat

Agreed. While NYU's improvement is remarkable, it has a ways to go to catch up with the Ivies academically. NYU has only moved up to #36 on the US News & World Report national university rankings (probably the most reliable ranking). The lowest Ivy ranking is #15.

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Date Posted: 08:24:41 07/16/17 Sun

If you look at the more academically oriented rankings, the ones that focus university-wide on major prize winners, research activity, major publications, etc., NYU ranks significantly higher than Brown and Dartmouth, and not terribly far from the middle of the Ivy League. It's not challenging, HYPC (Columbia), you're right -- yet. It looks like NYU is not quite there in undergraduate education, but the professional schools, STEM activity, and some grad schools are. And in undergrad studies, as at a number of schools, motivated students can cobble together Ivy caliber educations, if not prestige, with the professors they have available. Anecdotal conversations with friends suggest NYU still is stingy with financial aid to most students, especially at its professional schools. It's an interesting case hope story of diagnosis, strategy and execution bearing results.

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