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Subject: Re: Princeton Commit

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Date Posted: 07:03:28 07/27/17 Thu
In reply to: Tiger81 's message, "Re: Princeton Commit" on 06:00:21 07/27/17 Thu


Assuming he honors his commitment a great get.

Either way I think what we are seeing in microcosm the slow resurgence of Ivy Football.

With strong finaid packages at all the schools the financial downside of attending an Ivy is low and the long term upside is quite high.
This appreciated more than ever.

If you are a good player you will get a shot at the pros when you graduate and if not you have a solid education with a strong alumni network to get you going in life outside of sports.

Credit Harvard for aggressively recruiting FB and BB players to the league in the last 10 years and making the Ivies a real option for these national caliber athletes.

Bok and Bowen must be rolling over in their graves.

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Date Posted: 12:06:34 07/27/17 Thu

Derek Bok is still alive, but your point is well taken.

The slow drift toward better football is likely not supported by either Bok or Bowen, may the latter rest in peace.

On the other hand, Bok and Bowen may be more comfortable with improving football, because the football banding system allows much less leeway for schools to play games by changing their allocation of weak students between different sports.

Basketball, hockey, lacrosse and baseball compete against each other for low AI applicants at every Ivy. There's a lot more opportunity for academic hanky panky in men's basketball.

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Date Posted: 13:50:17 07/27/17 Thu

I actually feel that Bok and Bowen would both be very pleased with the dramatic improvement in the academic quality of Ivy student athletes now compared to the Ivy student athletes in the 1960s to 1980s era. Reflective of the vast improvements in quality of overall applicant pools, the football, basketball and hockey averages for GPA and SAT test scores for both the team average and for the lowest tier of recruits clearly have significantly improved. When you go to alumni reunions, so many of the athletes are the first to recognize that they would no longer be able to be admitted with today's far more competitive applicant pool. While there always be a few isolated exceptions or some athletes who may get in trouble, these Ivy student athletes of today are equally talented in the classroom as they are on the field, basketball court or hockey rink.

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