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Date Posted: 10:45:19 08/07/17 Mon
In reply to: JD 's message, "Re: Awful numbers, considering..." on 10:15:37 08/07/17 Mon

It's pretty easy for those two facts to co-exist. The APR is exclusively a highly-sensitive measure of continued progress toward graduation with ZERO concern for whether that progress is straight C's or straight A's. It's a silly metric that, at this point, basically exists to keep many HBCUs from being postseason eligible.

I don't really know that I trust raw GPA metrics either, even irrespective of the charges of grade inflation. I'd like to know what classes each student took and how they performed against the general curve of those classes. Maybe things have changed in the last decade, but I worked harder for some of my lowest grades in certain classes than I ever did for much higher grades in others.

In other words, I wouldn't use any of this data to extol the academic performance of a team or to denigrate it.

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Date Posted: 11:03:48 08/07/17 Mon

Yes, I further agree with you.

Getting high grades does not mean that any student is necessarily being challenged to think or learn. However, getting low grades is, at a minimum, something of a red flag which invites further scrutiny.

Neither the APR scores or team GPAs are conclusive. And neither is immune to being gamed. Getting a 4.0 in Advanced Basketweaving is not reflective of a meaningful academic experience. We need look no further than the scandal which continues to unfold in Chapel Hill.

But, for the time being, the APR scores and the team GPAs are the data we have. So it's reasonable to use them to the extent we can, especially if we're using them to ask questions rather than answer them.

A low APR or a low team GPA should invite questions in a conference like ours.

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Date Posted: 12:40:10 08/07/17 Mon

Bad data is not necessarily better than no data at all. Often it can be dangerous...

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