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Subject: Re: Ivy Leaguers currently on NFL rosters - per BGA

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Date Posted: 07:13:04 08/28/17 Mon
In reply to: Sprint66 's message, "Re: Ivy Leaguers currently on NFL rosters - per BGA" on 22:12:27 08/27/17 Sun

I deeply respect Sprint's loyalty to Cornell and get his frustration with recent results of Cornell FB

Cornell's problem is not Murphy but internal

Institutional/administrative commitment is behind any successful Ivy League sport program

Princeton football tanked in the 70's and 80's because of Bowen

Giamatti killed Yale football in the late 80's despite having one of the great all time coaches in Cozza

Penn's turn around in the 80's was not just about Jerry Berndt

At the end of the day every school on the Ivies has he ability to attract great student athletes and all have the alumni to shore up programs that need financial help (facilities or coaching salaries).

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Date Posted: 07:54:34 08/28/17 Mon

Couldn't agree more with M3. It starts at the top, and who knows, if recent tragic demise of reportedly pro sports Cornell Pres had not occurred, Big Red might be on a wholly different trajectory by now.

Just to put forth a counter factual scenario, neither Bowen's nor Giamatti's ascent to the top job was preordained. Many Tigers wanted a different choice, someone who had a Princeton undergraduate degree. Likewise, many thought ABG way too young and inexperienced for the job he won. Remove those two, and Ivy FB would have come into the 1980's with a full head of steam, with HYP rivalries nearly as strong as ever, Dartmouth a power, and the other four schools looking pretty damn good as well. Would NCAA have been so quick to consign us to 1AA obscurity?

Fun, but sad, to construct such scenarios!

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