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Subject: Almost all Connecticut Cities, including New Haven, are in decline


Author:
Observer
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Date Posted: 00:05:26 09/05/17 Tue
In reply to: Old Eli 's message, "Re: Yale Football 79-81" on 21:34:26 09/04/17 Mon

15 out of 19 lost population in the past year ---
https://ctmirror.org/2017/05/25/new-census-estimates-most-ct-cities-losing-residents/

Brookings saw the trend in the 2000 census figures ...
https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/escape-from-connecticuts-cities/

What on earth is wrong with Connecticut? (Atlantic Magazine)
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/07/connecticut-tax-inequality-cities/532623/

"In the biggest picture, Connecticut is a victim of two huge trends—first, the revitalization of America’s great rich cities and second, the long-term rise of hot, cheap suburbs. But Connecticut’s cities are not rich or great; its weather is not hot year-round; and its cost-of-living is not low. The state once benefited from the migration of corporations and their employees from grim and dangerous nearby metros, but now that wave is receding. To get rich, Connecticut offered a leafy haven where America’s titans of finance could move. To stay rich, it will have to build cities where middle-class Americans actually want to stay."

National Review: "Connecticut in 2017 seems like a state on the verge of — or in the middle of — an inexorable decline."

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448355/connecticut-businesses-population-are-fleeing-state

"Connecticut is collapsing" (Daily Beast):
"Connecticut’s population has churned as its youth chase opportunities elsewhere and retirees fled to warmer climes.
Its total population fell to 3.576 million in 2016 from 3.596 million in 2013 and is now below 2010 levels, according to U.S. Census records.
The decline is largely due to domestic outmigration, or residents fleeing for other states. Records show 135,684 people left from 2010 to 2016, although foreign immigrants and births have replaced some of those losses.
Young adults (age 18 to 29) are leaving the state at a higher rate than other groups, according to state revenue records analyzed by CTdata".

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Almost all Massachusetts in decline


Author:
Observer15
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Date Posted: 01:01:43 09/05/17 Tue

On a very short time -who wants to give more to this

Why are so many people leaving Massachusetts
http://www.wbur.org/cognoscenti/2016/02/24/massachusetts-population-thomas-j-fitzgerald

Continuing decline over last decade in Massachust-etts middle cities
http://pioneerinstitute.org/better_government/continuing-decline-over-last-decade-in-massachusetts-middle-cities/

A state of decline –Why Massachusetts is losing people
http://archive.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/10/23/a_state_of_decline/?page=2


Etc etc etc

Observer –what is wrong with you? something for sure.What is the actual source of your hate for Yale.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Yale is fine ... its all that is keeping New Haven afloat!


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Observer
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Date Posted: 07:50:00 09/05/17 Tue

But its going to have to take on more of the financial burden.

12 of the Worst Places to Live in the US

"New Haven ranked #4 among the 12 worst cities to live in in America:

New Haven is the second largest city in Connecticut after Bridgeport. New Haven is well-known for being the home of Yale University, one of the most prestigious schools in the country. However, the surrounding areas of New Haven are impoverished and crime ridden. The population of the Connecticut city is 130,741. The economy of New Haven was originally based in manufacturing, but since the end of the war New Haven’s working class population has been hit hard. The median household income in New Haven is $29,604 (half the annual cost for a student to attend Yale!) and approximately 25% of the city’s residents live below the poverty line. New Haven also has a significantly high crime rate, as it’s ranked safer than only 3% of US cities. Nearly 68 crimes occur annually for every 1,000 residents. Unless you’re moving there to study, we don’t recommend residing in New Haven."

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: It's not just Yale


Author:
Calvin
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Date Posted: 09:40:23 09/05/17 Tue

The insecurity rages over anything that threatens the illusion of Harvard superiority, although Yale seems to be at the forefront.

I'll bet that while that image is critical to his self-worth, he actually contributes very little to sustaining it.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Talk about "insecurity"!


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Observer
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Date Posted: 10:11:18 09/05/17 Tue

What does New Haven's widely-perceived status as a dump have to do with "the illusion of Harvard superiority?" Nobody is criticizing Yale here, or threatening Yale's "illusion of self-worth". Certainly that "illusion" cannot lean on New Haven to support it, can it Calvin?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Yes, insecurity


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Calvin
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Date Posted: 10:34:47 09/05/17 Tue

Obvious to everyone else, from every school - even other Harvard fans - but you.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Nothing is more "obvious" than your snottiness.


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Observer
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Date Posted: 14:28:17 09/05/17 Tue

Even other Yale fans find you extremely snotty.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Almost all Connecticut Cities, including New Haven, are in decline


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Old Eli
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Date Posted: 07:33:55 09/05/17 Tue

again, this has nothing at all to do with how attractive Yale is to prospective students. nothing. they live on campus, rarely leave it, and the troubles in the city, state and region are doing absolutely nothing to dampen the enthusiasm of high school students around the world to attend the school.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: No Peeping O your wrong again


Author:
Ivy wanna be
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Date Posted: 13:58:54 09/05/17 Tue

But you are a funny little man.!! I don't mean by stature either.? With your snotty ego have gone far.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Almost all Connecticut Cities, including New Haven, are in decline


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Bill
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Date Posted: 07:50:49 09/05/17 Tue

Observer,

Your transparent hate will keep prospective students from Harvard. Why would anyone go to a school where there is so much hate? Too much hate in the world as it is. I feel sorry for you, life is too short.

Bill

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Yale is fine. New Haven is a dump


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Observer
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Date Posted: 08:48:18 09/05/17 Tue

No "hate" here, old man. Amazement that anybody devoted to Yale feels the need to stick up for the dump, however.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Yale is fine. New Haven is a dump


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Observer15
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Date Posted: 16:55:20 09/06/17 Wed

Take a video tour right around Yale where Yale students live and see for yourselves.

Video tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PHApdWRjEY

And then have a look at Yale's new colleges and think what it might be like to live in those. Observer is so sad.

new colleges: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EW45IDJXxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS4tC4R5ctg

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Almost all Connecticut Cities, including New Haven, are in decline


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Bill
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Date Posted: 09:07:43 09/05/17 Tue

Observer,

Your obsession of trying to degrade anything and everything associated with Yale is amazing. Constantly trying to discredit Yale, and its city, to attempt to validate Harvard is childish and reeks of insecurity.

Yes, I am old. With age comes wisdom. Better to be silent and thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

I am proud of my alma mater and feel no need to put down others.

Be secure Observer. Harvard is a fine institution. No need for hate, it will kill you.

Bill

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: You keep missing the point, old man ...


Author:
Observer
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Date Posted: 10:03:04 09/05/17 Tue

Yale is a fine school, and has never been "discredited" by me; but New Haven is widely perceived to be a dump.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Almost all Connecticut Cities, including New Haven, are in decline


Author:
L et V
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Date Posted: 10:09:23 09/05/17 Tue

We should delight in poor O as he personifies so much that people find objectionable/ludicrous. If he weren't around to mock, torment, and best, we'd have to invent him, but, praise be, someone's already done so.
Sad O is the brilliant creation of a satirist with a devilish anti-Harvard bent. He is the Mortimer Snerd of an anonymous Edgar Bergen.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Wow!


Author:
Observer
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Date Posted: 10:57:12 09/05/17 Tue

You put a lot of THOUGHT in that, didn't you? All on behalf of New Haven??

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Peeping O you should do as well,


Author:
Ivy wanna be
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Date Posted: 16:15:59 09/05/17 Tue

In your special OCD way. A little thought goes a long way.?

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: In the Big 0's case


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Calvin
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Date Posted: 17:10:16 09/05/17 Tue

It's the other way around.

A lot of thought goes a little way.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: In "Calvin's" case...


Author:
Observer
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Date Posted: 18:04:40 09/05/17 Tue

Certainly true in your case, Mr Snotty

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Big O lend me your sleeve , wipe snot off me


Author:
Ivy wanna be
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Date Posted: 19:32:37 09/05/17 Tue

The Mr. Snotty O.!!!

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